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A fact from William Gregson (slave trader) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 July 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in a court case, William Gregson was awarded £30 for every enslaved person that his crew had murdered in the Zong massacre?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:27, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Enslaved people thrown from a ship

... that in a court case William Gregson was awarded £30 for every enslaved person that his crew had murdered in the Zong massacre (pictured, enslaved people thrown from a ship)?

this book says on page 102 "What stunned people about the Zong in March 1783 was not simply the murderous brutality of events on that ship, but the incredible legal saga played out in London – and the implications of that legal debate. An English jury, sitting under the watchful gaze of the Lord Chief Justice, Lord Mansfield, ‘rendered a verdict wholly favourable to the owners of the Zong for the loss of 130-plus slaves at £30"

Created by Desertarun (talk). Self-nominated at 07:30, 5 June 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Date, length, writing all check out, no apparent copyvio. I did some light copy-editing on the article. The hook certainly caught my attention. My only concern about putting this on the front page is the citations to a "Visit Lancaster" article which is just an unattributed MS Word pdf and seems a bit dubious as a reliable source. Is there any chance you could track those down from a better source? The article does have a bibliography so it shouldn't be too hard to follow up. —Nizolan ^{(talk · c.)} 23:51, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As luck would have it I discovered the published version of the article here, which now looks reputable. I've swapped that in and done some more minor editing on the article. Happy for this go ahead now. —Nizolan ^{(talk · c.)} 02:39, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Desertarun (talk) 07:54, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nizolan: I've just discovered that the pic is routinely mis-identified as being of the Zong massacre, but in actuality it is a Brazilian slave ship from the 1830s. I've reworded the caption, does it look OK to you? Desertarun (talk) 19:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Desertarun: Thanks for pointing this out—looking at the journal article "Identifying pictorial images of Atlantic slavery: Three case studies" which discusses the image, it seems like what it's meant to be depicting is actually unknown. I've replaced the version of the picture on Commons with the one reproduced in that article, which is larger and has better sourcing. Regarding the caption, the original newspaper caption it was published with actually doesn't specify "to their death" so I've changed the hook to say "slaves thrown from a ship" (assuming that's OK with you). —Nizolan ^{(talk · c.)} 21:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nizolan: That's OK with me, and all looks good. Thanks. Desertarun (talk) 21:10, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adding extra tick so promoters know this is good to go. Desertarun (talk) 14:29, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a note here that a QPQ was not required; this is missing from the above discussion. Schwede 66 04:47, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]