Talk:William Frederick James Harvey

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Just been adding London Gazette refs for his awards and I am a bit suspicious that he had a MC. The citation quoted on http://www.theaerodrome.com/aces/england/harvey.php is for a Lt. William James Harvey, R. Dub. Fus., Spec. Res., and R.F.C and talk about him being an observer. Not sure Harvey had a connection with the Royal Dublin Fusilers and he was a pilot not an observer. None of his subsequent citation for two DFCs and his MBE mention that he has a MC which is unusual. So I am think we should remove the refs to MC unless anybody knows better? MilborneOne (talk) 18:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing controversy

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Copy made by Georgejdorner (talk) 13:43, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On William Frederick James Harvey an IP who is trying to contribute appropriate content could use some help dealing with vandal fighters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.43.31 (talk)

First, read Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources - any sources that cannot be reliably sourced are liable to be reverted. Personal records, logbooks etc generally don't count as reliable sources on Wikipedia. Secondly, when you find some WP:RS's to back up what you want to say, take care in carrying out your edits - assuming that you were the IP editor that contributed to William Frederick James Harvey on the 14th, many of your edits were poorly written and broke formatting - please use the preview button to check that what you are adding doesn't break anything, or discuss thingts on the article talk page first.Nigel Ish (talk) 20:13, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't assume. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.43.31 (talk)

Some of the IPs additions were appropriate (for example he was born in Hackney not Portslade) although it needs a reliable reference. Main problem is the IP made such a mess of the code with his/her edits that I would suggest it may be better for the IP to seek help and discuss the changes needed and the reliable sources on the article talk page until they gain experience in editing articles. MilborneOne (talk) 21:35, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What I would like to see page patrollers do is fix those newbie mistakes, rather than revert the newbie. Show how to fix the mistake, not tell the IP to do it (obviously the IP does not know how), nor smack down the IP for the mistake. Less gatekeeping, more helping. A newbiew has no clue; page patrollers such as User:Docboat are supposed to be experienced editors, thus capable of fixing mistakes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.167.43.31 (talk)

If you read what I said above, that is is bring it up on the talk page and people will help do the edits until the IP learns. This project has nothing to do with new page patrollers but some of them do not have time to fix all the errors they come across. MilborneOne (talk) 15:10, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]