Talk:William Cope, 1st Baron Cope

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William Shuldham Cope

William Shuldham Cope died 1942 and was buried, according to [1], in Melbourne. He may well have been a casualty of the Pacific War. I think he was in the army.

@Billinghurst: What is now in the article, referenced to a newspaper, is vague. Can you throw any light? Charles Matthews (talk) 08:31, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CM. You are going to need to find someone who has good access to UK WW2 army records, presumably officers. I don't. — billinghurst sDrewth 09:59, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've added what I have found about William Shuldham Cope to the article: he was in the Welsh Guards as a young man, becoming Captain. His father had business interests in Canada, and he may well have been there c.1940. Possibly an ANZAC via his time in New Zealand, but really unclear at present. @Billinghurst: At a guess, the son was back in the UK for his sister's wedding in 1940, joined up, and was posted to somewhere near Singapore. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:59, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

probate

Calendar of the Grants ...

Name: William Shuldham Cope
Death Date: 1 Mar 1942
Death Place: Australia
Probate Date: 14 Oct 1947
Probate Registry: London, England

of 29 Mitford-street St Kilda Victoria Australia died 1 March 1942 at Austin Hospital Heidelberg Bourke Australia Administration London 14 October to the right honoruable Helen baroness Cope widow. Effects £1225 in England.

Comment: The Austin Hosp is close by the Heidelberg Repatriation Hospital so it would seem reaonably certain that this is as a consequence of war injuries. Also noting that there would have been two other hospitals close by to St Kilda that would have been used for normal hospital treatment. So as a minimum armed forces. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:53, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No probate in Victoria. [2]

census

1911 England

Name: William Shuldham Cope
Age in 1911: 8
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Peterston-s-ely, Glamorganshire, Wales
Civil Parish: St Bride´s Major
Street Address: Southerndown Glam
Registration District: Bridgend
Registration District Number: 591
Sub-registration District: Bridgend
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household Schedule Number: 45
Piece: 32588
Household Members:
Name Age
William Cope 40
Jennie Rees 24
Helen Cope 42
William Shuldham Cope 8
Helen Margaret Letitia Cope 7
Grace Hughes 23
Clement Gale 29
Amy Spencer 27
Annie Martin 30
Florence James 23

birth

FreeBMD

Births Jun 1902
COPE William Shuldham Cardiff 11a 497

Family tree indicates
Birth 21 May 1902
Death 1 Mar 1942

baptism

Glamorgan Baptisms, Marriages and Burials. Wales: Archives and Records Council Wales.

Name: William Shuldham Cope
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 5 Jul 1902
Baptism Place: Peterston-Super-Ely, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father:
William Cope
Mother:
Helen Cope

death

Vic deaths

Name: William Shuldham Cope
Death Registration Year: 1942
Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: William Cope
Mother Maiden Name: Shuldham
Reference Number: 2311

1939 Register

Nothing evident. No William S Hope. Those William Hope born 1902 don't look pertinent. — billinghurst sDrewth 09:02, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Passenger records

Board of Trade: Commercial and Statistical Department and successors: Outwards Passenger Lists. BT27. Records of the Commercial, Companies, Labour, Railways and Statistics Departments. Records of the Board of Trade and of successor and related bodies. The National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey,

Name: William Shuldham Cope
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Departure Date: 21 Sep 1929
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Empress of Scotland
Search Ship Database: Search for the Empress of Scotland in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Railway
Official Number: 144375
Master: J Turnbull Esquire

Evidence of William S Hope born 1902 travelling through Canada, US, 1931.

Australian archives

naa.gov.au searches

Nothing evident for William Cope in army, navy, air force

Nothing evident in passenger arrivals index 1898-1972

National Archives UK

Discovery search doesn't show anything evident. Nothing for William Shuldham Cope.

New Zealand archives

Nothing for William Shuldham Cope

Archives.Wales

Nothing for William Shuldham Cope

Library.Wales

Nothing for William Shuldham Cope

Trove

Nothing evident

awm.gov.au

No William Shuldham Cope