Talk:Wiehenvenator

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LSIDs?

The inclusion of Life Science Identifiers strikes me as unnecessary information. It's not significant and can be easily accessed by looking at the paper. Lythronaxargestes (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:17, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the last is true of all information from the paper. That is, until the magazine goes broke...LSIDs are a recent development and, like most novelties, might at first seem superfluous. In time, one will get used to them :o). As the name was published in a electronic publication, it is a necessary condition for its validity that LSIDs are registered. This is sometimes omitted, so a mention of them proves that the name is valid, a crucial piece of information. If we mention them anyway, we might as well provide the LSIDs themselves. They are just as much a name of the subject as "Wiehenvenator" is, only in a code string!--MWAK (talk) 06:46, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe such info can be incorporated in the "taxon identifiers" or "Authority control" bars, as seen here?:[1] I'll ping Thor Dockweiler, he seems to know about these things. FunkMonk (talk) 11:31, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

PingFunkMonk, pingMWAK, pingLythronaxargestes = Wikipedia now has 2 forms of authority control which can be thought of as a further subject/topic information referral by the Wikipedia user. These authority controls tie into international and national level government, scientific, or library databases. The first is “Authority control” developed in the English Wikipedia in late 2009 originating from the German Wikipedia. This authority control for libraries is primarily used by librarians and provides topic cataloguing related information for books on the subject. The second authority control involves life science identifiers and is currently known as “Taxon Identifiers”. Developed by a U.S. forest ranger and implemented in the English Wikipedia in March 2016, this authority control links the user to authoritative scientific databases with further information on a particular life science subject, primarily (but not necessarily) at the taxonomic level. Wikipedia very much wants these authority controls and is trying to interlink certain databases to help enhance its encyclopedia. There are several projects in this regard. Some of the databases in turn are interlinking their information pages with Wikipedia links. Life science identifiers are catalog numbers for particular life science subjects such as particular species. As publications and scientific input is being electronified at an increasing pace it is now required by some to actually be electronically registered first before publication. Major publications in several fields began in 2016 to require their authors to be registered in databases like so as to eliminate name disambiguation problems and finding the author’s work. Some funding/grant source require this now too. New species (living or fossil) is one area that now requires registration to get official nomenclature status. In the case of Wiehenvenator you will see that the “Taxon Identifiers” authority control now has the genus identifier. A separate species article would have to be created for the species identifier. The usage of the identifiers would mostly go into info boxes (in this case authority controls) rather than the prose, but in the case of Wiehenvenator it is highly appropriate in the prose as it notes the necessity that has developed in the issue to do so. Some in Wikipedia do not like authority controls but this view has been negated. I am fond of the Fossil Works identifier into the Paleobiology Database but the funding has been eliminated in the last couple of years, so Wiehenvenator has not been entered into it. There is no library authority control yet for Wiehenvenator as none of the library databases yet have it. Perhaps some day there will be a museum authority control which will provide physical specimen collection information and photos. One for art galleries might be an idea too. Thank you, by the way, to all of you for your dinosaurian contributions. I occasionally run across your user ID’s. Thor Dockweiler (talk) 21:53, 20 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]