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Good articleWhatever It Takes (Lifehouse song) has been listed as one of the Music good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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September 9, 2011Good article nomineeListed

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Reviewer: Spiceitup08 (talk • message • contribs • count • logs • email) 18:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Will be reviewing shortly --FeuDeJoie (talk) 18:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

  • The addition of copyrighted material on Wikipedia is to illustrate something worthwhile or necessary in the article. It is just a CD shot, remove it. It has no positive addition to the article.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)

Lead

  • The song was written by Lifehouse lead singer Jason Wade and American record producer Jude Cole, who felt that the message of the song dealt with how difficult it could be to be in a relationship. - Maybe split into two sentences, it doesn't read well.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • It was first released with Who We Are on June 18, 2007 and was then solicited to mainstream radio on November 13, 2007. - I dont get it, released with? Its confusing...
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • Expand the commercial response, "It was a commercial success in the United States and charted on several charts in the country" - You need to list the extent of the success.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)

Background

  • The song was written by Lifehouse lead singer Jason Wade and American record producer Jude Cole.[1] It was produced by Lifehouse and Jude Cole at Ironworks Studio in Los Angeles.[2] - You need to merge the sentences, --- it was written and produced by ......
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • working with songs - It sounds like your talking about somebody rather than something.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • ""Whatever It Takes" was first released with the band's fourth studio album, Who We Are, on June 18, 2007.[5] It was then solicited to mainstream radio on November 13, 2007.[6]" - How was it first released, you need to clarify this in the introduction also.
 Not done I don't know how I can clarify this further. Rp0211 (talk2me)
Well when I first read it, it sounded as if the single was released the same week as the album, but actually it was just on the record. Is there anyway you can rephrase it?--FeuDeJoie (talk) 11:42, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)

Chart performance

  • It moved around the chart - Is there a consensus of how it did originally, you say moved... to where... did it go lower or higher? - You do this on the Pop songs chart info too!
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • It moved around the for several weeks - Typo?
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • The whole Chart performance section can be trimmed down, it is very blocky and at points hard to read.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)

Music video

  • The sections are too small, merge them.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • the behind-the-scenes music video - It makes it sound like there is two videos?
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)

References

  • You need to correctly format the references with dates and names.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)

Overall I am placing this article on hold for seven days in which time you can contest anything I have written on my talk page. It is quite a small article, but nevertheless it is fairly good. --FeuDeJoie (talk) 18:55, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have addressed all of the issues except one which I am unsure what to do. Rp0211 (talk2me) 20:38, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All of the issues have now been addressed. Rp0211 (talk2me) 17:38, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


THR comment The sample caption and fair use rationale are insufficient. What specifically does the chorus sample illustrate about the song? Two Hearted River (paddle / fish) 13:14, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thank you for addressing this. Rp0211 (talk2me) 17:33, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops...I think you did this last time, too. You can't use a non-free music sample to illustrate lyrics because reproducing the words would be less intrusive. Try pointing out a unique musical aspect instead. Two Hearted River (paddle / fish) 20:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Novice7 comments

  • Composition and critical reception: I can't see any reviews except two comments on song's musical structure/composition. Can you include more reviews?
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • The sheet music, from what I can see, is not published by Sony/ATV but Alfred Music Publishing.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • Per WP:USCHARTS, Digital and Radio charts should be removed as the song has charted on the main Hot 100 chart.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • A quick Youtube search reveals that the band has performed the song live. Maybe you can include a few notable performances?
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • Ref #27 missing access date.
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)
  • Inconsistency: Lead and Composition state the song is pop-rock, however, the infobox states the song is pop, rock and roll??
 Done Rp0211 (talk2me)

Good job all in all. Novice7 (talk) 13:54, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for adding your comments into this review. I have addressed all of the issues you have brought up. Rp0211 (talk2me) 17:16, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the issues have been addressed but the critical reception and composition section is confusing, generally it gives no critical responses, it just highlights some content, really you need to expand critical responses.--FeuDeJoie (talk) 14:09, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I understand what you mean on some of these and have extended the critical response to the song itself. Rp0211 (talk2me) 16:18, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It does read better, I will carefully look through once more, but its looking pretty good --FeuDeJoie (talk) 13:44, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay one final thing, generally Live performances sections come after the music video section. You should probably move it and I think its then ready for a pass --FeuDeJoie (talk) 21:01, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have moved the "Live performances" section. I believe all of the issues have been addressed. Rp0211 (talk2me) 00:25, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay so this really is my last issue with the article, the live performance section is very repetitive, it doesn't give any descriptions of performances, even if you cannot find these descriptions, it would be worth trying to connect shorter sentences together, it is quite blocky to read. --FeuDeJoie (talk) 15:42, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have connected some of the sentences together to make it flow better. I believe all of the issues have now been addressed. Rp0211 (talk2me) 23:11, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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