Talk:Whatever It Takes (Imagine Dragons song)

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Whatever it Takes is the third single, at least in europe, from the album by Imagine Dragons ^[1] please don't change it Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaykoT (talk • contribs) 17:15, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/playlist

@JaykoT: No it's not. It doesn't indicate that the song is a single anywhere on the page, and the fact that the song was initially released as a promotional single, what happens next can merely be covered in release history. This is still a promotional single. Hayman30 (talk) 17:20, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Hayman30: so, we must wait till 2020 when it will send to US radio to considerate the third single? don't make me laugh. US radio is promoting now thunder while the song is in the european radios for 2-3 months

@JaykoT: No, it's not the third single after all. The source you provided isn't verifying your claims at all. It's irrefutably a promotional single. Hayman30 (talk) 17:26, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Hayman30: https://essentiallypop.com/epop/2017/09/imagine-dragons-announce-uk-tour-new-single-whatever-it-takes/

@Hayman30: go and read Dailypost http://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/imagine-dragons-uk-tour-manchester-13642052

@Hayman30: And more. The video will be out next week https://twitter.com/Imaginedragons/status/916073041502789632

I don't consider these sources as reliable, and in Twitter, video is video, not as a single. Let's just wait till ID or their label confirm it officially. 183.171.180.123 (talk) 19:10, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@183.171.180.123: The song is been sent to the european radios as the third single. Stop erasing contrasted information. Thanks

Genre

I have removed two genre from Whatever It Takes (Imagine Dragons song) Arena rock and R&B because the sources is unreliable and genre is incorrect. Arena rock music genre is more relation with hard rock or power pop. Whatever it Takes is definitely is not an Arena rock and there nothing sound like R&B. The reference added only listing top 10 best songs by Imagine Dragons and explain very little about genres. I did try to find more reliable and stronger reference about what type of music genre is Whatever it Takes, but I can't find the reliable sources to explain it. But I did looked up rateyourmusic.com and discogs.com as both say pop rock genre, but with little other information the explain the music. When I listen to this music, I think the genre is sounds more likely as pop rock, electropop, soft rock or just pop music. But I am not 100% very sure because I can't find sources for how to describe it. I think it is probably likely be a pop music or pop rock. 80.233.63.170 (talk) 10:49, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTFORUM: Nobody is interested in what you think the song sounds like. Reliable sources are all the matters. You need to stop removing reliably sourced genres for ridiculous reasons like "unreliable genres" (genres cannot be "unreliable" or "incorrect" if they are supported by reliable sources), "nothing sounds [insert genre]" (that's your opinion, which is irrelevant on Wikipedia), or "unexplained adding genres" (no explanation is needed if reliable sources are provided). CC: Calalaloptin. Hayman30 (talk) 09:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Hayman30...Sorry for my own disrupt edit on Whatever It Takes (Imagine Dragons song) that I did few days ago. I was only just helping finding more reliable and stronger reference about what type of music genre. But I did found sources that Imagine Dragons is an Arena rock on it's Wikipedia page and reference is reliable. I realized that Arena rock is an sub-genre of rock music, not just relation with hard rock or power pop, So I will keep Arena rock genre as it corrected. The sources is also reliable for Thunder and Believer . But am not not sure if R&B is correct as there nothing sounds R&B, but I will leave it to others. 80.233.48.106 (talk) 18:58, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think any of the sources Calalaloptin provided were unreliable or not strong enough, you were clearly removing them simply because they don't align with your personal views. And I think you didn't get my point at all, judging from the last sentence of your comment. It doesn't matter if "nothing sounds R&B" in the song. It's an R&B song so long as a source calls it one. Wikipedia is based on reliable sources, not our subjective opinion. Hayman30 (talk) 08:04, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/playlist

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