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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 17:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]


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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
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Haven't reviewed an article of yours in a while after you did spend a good amount of time away from Wiki and I will happily take this one on now! --K. Peake 17:06, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

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  • WP:OVERLINK of Pop Smoke under songwriters
  • Target Tash to Tash (rapper) in the infobox
  • Music video title should have correct capitalisation for the song's title
  • "Pop Smoke, from his debut studio album" → "Pop Smoke from his debut studio album,"
  • "Bashar Jackson, Tashim Zene," → "Bashar Jackson, alongside Tashim Zene,"
  • "Elgin Lumpkin and Troy Oliver." → "Elgin Lumpkin, and Troy Oliver."
  • "The song's production was" → "Its production was"
  • "It was released as the fifth single" → "The song was released as the fifth and final single" with the target, plus there should be a full-stop before this to end the previous sentence
  • Remove wikilink on Ginuwine
  • The R&B track part should have "musically" removed and come before the sample info instead, plus change that to ""What You Know Bout" samples" with the target
  • "it showcases Pop Smoke sing about how he woos" → "Lyrically, it showcases Pop Smoke singing about his passion for" since that is more encyclopaedic
  • "It received positive reviews from critics," → "The song received generally positive reviews from music critics," with the target
  • Why is it not mentioned in the lead that his lyrics were praised as well as his singing range?
  • ""What You Know Bout Love" peaked at number 25" → "It peaked at number 25"
  • "within the top five of five countries," → "within the top five of four other countries," to not only avoid repetition of info but repetitive wording
  • The certifications sentence is missing a full-stop
  • "of Pop Smoke and fans" → "of the rapper and his fans" to avoid stating his name too much

Background and composition

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  • "What You Know bout Love" fix capitalisation with the penultimate word
  • "he was about it" → "he was about the song"
  • Target sample to Sampling (music)
  • Wikilink YouTube
  • [1] should solely be at the end of the para since it is the only source
  • "they thought that was" → "that they thought was"
  • "always wanted it" → "always wanted the song"
  • Wikilink Playboi Carti
  • "saw a snippet of → "he saw a snippet of"
  • "He admitted he didn't know where" → "He admitted to not having known where"
  • Remove wikilink on YouTube
  • "Bashar Jackson, Tashim Zene," → "Bashar Jackson, alongside Tashim Zene,"
  • Target Elgin Lumpkin to Ginuwine
  • Wikilink Troy Oliver
  • "was handled by" → "were both handled by"
  • Target Jess Jackson to Jess Jackson (record producer)
  • "and Sean Solymar." → "and Sean Solymar served as assistant engineers."
  • Target programming to Programming (music)
  • Mention what radio stations the song was released as a single to; is it UK mainstream radio here or a different format?
It was released worldwide. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 09:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove wikilink on Ginuwine
  • "one of several tracks" → "standing as one of several tracks"
  • "that the song was a "Poop" → "that the song is a "[p]oop"
  • Where does The Independent ref source that the lover is a female that he is detailing and trying to please?
  • "They continue, saying" → "They continued, saying"
  • "They state that" → "The staff stated that"

Critical reception

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  • Retitle to Reception because there are accolades at the end
  • "the song shows that Pop Smoke" → "the song shows Pop Smoke"
  • "into multiple genres"." → "into multiple genres."" for consistency
  • "big to contain"." → "big to contain.""
  • "along with the album tracks" → "along with fellow album tracks" to be more specific
  • "even sometimes tender"." → "even sometimes tender.""
  • "In their album review," → "In her album review," because "their" implies it is the publication's staff or any other group/person who the genre of is unknown
  • Target chorus to Refrain
  • "admission of weakness"." → "admission of weakness.""
  • August Brown's review is included here twice; remove the second instance
  • "give "Ginuwine's 2001" → "gives "Ginuwine's 2001"
  • The last two reviews should be in the first para instead since the second should only be for the two accolades; this number is not enough for a sub-section
  • "the song strayed Pop Smoke from his" → "the song strays from Pop Smoke's"
  • Target drill to Drill music
  • Target trap to Trap music
  • "origins", and said it was" → "origins," and said it is"
  • Why is the Uproxx review after the Slant Magazine one when it is more receptive?
  • "placed the song at" → "placed "What You Know Bout Love" at"
  • The 2020 best tracks of 2020 → The 20 Best Tracks Of 2020
  • "saying it was a" → "calling it a"
  • "and commented it was" → "as well as"

Commercial performance

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  • This should be after the music video section

 Not done, every song article always has the commercial section before the music video. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 08:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • "It has further peaked at number 7" → "It further peaked at number seven" per MOS:NUM
  • "It rose to number nine" → "The song climbed to number nine"
  • Cite Pop Smoke's chart history at the end of this sentence instead, as that verifies it being his third top 10 hit
  • "later rose to number 4" → "later rose to number four" and you should cite the chart from the table by using a ref name here instead, to avoid repeated refs
  • "The single peaked at number 16" → ""What You Know Bout Love" peaked at number 16"
  • "It was certified 2× platinum by" → "It was certified double platinum by"
  • "peaked at number 6 and was certified a platinum certification by the" → "peaked at number six and received a platinum certification from"
  • Top five info should come before top 10 since not only are the positions higher, but the top five mentions New Zealand's fellow Oceania country Australia

Music video

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Background and synopsis

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  • Img looks good
  • Wikilink music video
  • "The music video opens with a video" → "The visual opens with a video"
  • Remove excess spacing at the end of the sentence
  • "The visual features" → "The video includes"
  • Remove wikilink on TikTok

Critical reception

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  • Remove introduce to Revolt
  • "described the songs music video as "bittersweet"." → "described the video as "bittersweet."" since the former is too wordy
  • "comments that the video" → "commented that the visual"
  • "but says it" → "but said it"
  • "He continues, saying it" → "He continued, admitting that"

Personnel

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  • Retitle to Credits and personnel
  • Wikilink and target all of the people where you can
  • Change writer to songwriter

Charts

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Weekly charts

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Year-end charts

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  • See MOS:TABLECAPTION

Certifications

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  • See MOS:TABLECAPTION
  • Australia certification is not backed up by the URL; add an appropriate archive to fix this

References

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  • Copyvio score looks decent at 37.5%
  • Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
  • Target Tidal to Tidal (service) on ref 2
  • Wikilink AllMusic on ref 3
  • Ref 4 should cite the original URL as well as the archive and change publisher to BBC Radio 1
The old link is dead now. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 08:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You still need to add the original as well though; this is why archives exist. --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 12
  • LA Times → Los Angeles Times on ref 13
  • WP:OVERLINK of Los Angeles Times on ref 15
  • Remove ref 21 since it violates WP:RSP and is useless since the source directly before backs up the song's debut on the Hot 100
  • Wikilink Official Charts Company on ref 27
  • Remove ref 30 per my earlier comment; it is basically a duplicate of the chart table's ref, to elaborate
  • You can replace ref 33 with ref 34, as they are the same and the former is cited from a URL not a template so a ref name can be used to replace it anywhere
  • WP:OVERLINK of Uproxx on ref 45
  • Recording Industry Association (Singapore) → Recording Industry Association Singapore on ref 62, with the wikilink

Final comments and verdict

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  •  On hold for a week since I know you are somewhat busy with other ventures currently; I have noticed that your skills as an editor have approved by a considerable amount though! --K. Peake 08:03, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review Kyle! All of your issues have been addressed. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 08:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Ultimate Boss You missed a few points, which I covered above but thank you for the quick response. --K. Peake 09:24, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Kyle Peake, done. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 09:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Ultimate Boss You need to implement all of the changes marked as not done... --K. Peake 09:37, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Kyle Peake, I did. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 09:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Ultimate Boss Not fully; I will point out above where changes still need to be made. --K. Peake 09:58, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Kyle Peake, I cannot find the regular link for the bbc source anywhere. The Ultimate Boss (talk) 17:07, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Ultimate Boss I fixed the reference for you and added its status as a dead URL, plus thank you for implementing the suggested changes even though I did some copy editing in the lead where my suggestions seem to have come across as confusing to you. ✓ Pass and I did remember to fix the target for music critics as well! --K. Peake 17:30, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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