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Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved and don't see the need to create redirects using some sort of comma disambiguation. —innotata 23:29, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Westminster City Council → City of Westminster, London borough council or City of Westminster, local authority – to match: https://www.westminster.gov.uk/ and perhaps: Category:London borough councils (the City of Westminster does not have London Borough in its name) ~~OR merge with City of Westminster.~~ Both articles refer to the same web address.Gregkaye ✍♪ Gregkaye 07:28, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose rename or merge. Westminster City Council is the name of the council - see for example https://www.westminster.gov.uk/copyright and many other pages on that site. It is the local authority for the City of Westminster but it is not the City of Westminster. It is not called the City of Westminster London Borough Council. The thirty-three authorities of Greater London are not consistently named in actual fact and Wikipedia has to follow that, not invent names for them. NebY (talk) 16:41, 11 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
NebY, I am really not sure about the correct application of WP:UCRN and WP:OFFICIAL in the context of the mixed messages that the organisation sends out. I'll present findings for editors to consider.

All the headers of the site seem to read: "City of Westminster" and, as a specific example, https://www.westminster.gov.uk/pay-your-council-tax contains the text: "Send payments by post to: Westminster City Council, P.O Box 397, Warrington, WA55 1GG. Cheques are payable to 'City of Westminster'."

the twitter account is: https://twitter.com/CityWestminster which, on my visit, contained 48 tweet headings "Westminster Council @CityWestminster" and one reference to "Westminster City Council" which reads: "Tweeting news, views and events from Westminster City Council".

A search on: ("City of Westminster" OR "Westminster City Council") letter produced official letter examples like this. The header is "City of Westminster" while "Westminster City Council" is not mentioned.

This letter, found by chance, has "Westminster City Council" prominently in the header but with "City of Westminster" as the main logo.

The councils main building as in image is simply marked as "WESTMINSTER CITY HALL".

I withdraw the merge proposal on the basis that parallel boroughs have two articles for example: London Borough of Camden and Camden London Borough Council. The WP:UCRN query still stands.

Gregkaye ✍♪ 08:11, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Council is the entity that acts for the city and manages its funds, hence the cheques written to the city not the council and the footers on the website, both City of Westminster and copyright Westminster City Council. Thanks for withdrawing the merge proposal. As for renaming and WP:UCRN, neither City of Westminster, London borough council nor City of Westminster, local authority is used by or of the council, but our current title Westminster City Council is commonly used and is eminently recognisable. NebY (talk) 09:56, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Westminster City Council is the common name, and I'm bemused as why a link to the council's website proves it should be moved. The heading of the council's home page is "Welcome to Westminster | Westminster City Council". This legal judgement refers to the council as "Westminster City Council". Furthermore, consistency with other articles in Category:London borough councils is irrelevant when the council simply doesn't follow the normal naming format. This confusion may have come about as City of Westminster is the name of the borough, which is not the same as being the name of the council. Number 5 7 19:21, 12 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:46, 15 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Use of non-free image "City of westminster logo.svg"

The non-free image File:City of westminster logo.svg was recently added to this article by this edit. Since the image is non-free image, it requires a separate, specific non-free usage rationle is required for each article it is being used in per WP:NFCC#10c. The image has such a rationale for City of Westminster, but not for this article (See File:City of westminster logo.svg#Summary) so I have commented it out per WP:NFCCE. The image can be readded as soon as the appropriate rationale has been added it's file summary on its Wikipedia page. - Marchjuly (talk) 20:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Voting System

Westminster has more than person elected per ward. Is "First past the post" the right term when more than one person is elected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.113.214 (talk) 07:17, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sutton London Borough Council currently has Plurality-at-large, redirecting to Plurality block voting, an article which does indeed describe the system used for such UK multi-member wards. "Plurality-at-large" may not be a familiar term for UK readers and any mention of "block vote" may make older readers think of block vote instead, the eighth term in our disambiguation page Block voting, which really ought to be called Block voting (disambiguation). It might take a lot of to-and-fro and centralised discussion to sort it out. The Electoral Reform Society calls the system "Bloc vote" and describes it as "A form of First Past the Post but with multiple winners and votes",[14] which could justify staying with "First past the post" until a more precise term enters general use. NebY (talk) 10:59, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.

The name used in the "Sutton London Borough Council" wiki entry is not in widespread use in the UK, but perhaps less misleading than the current term. 92.28.113.214 (talk) 09:26, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it could be called "First three" (all the wards elect 3 people) 92.28.113.214 (talk) 11:35, 10 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If we're going to use a term that's unfamiliar, I'd suggest we at least use the one for which we have an article, and which applies as well to the many two-member wards in London and the larger wards elsewhere in the UK or in Westminster's recent past (see List of electoral wards in Greater London), and which incorporates the fact that voters have as many votes as there are councillors to be elected (unlike for example the multi-member wards in the City of London). NebY (talk) 19:15, 11 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Raine Spencer, Countess Spencer

Request to add Raine Spencer, Countess Spencer to list of notable councillors ThirdWaySocialDemocrat (talk) 16:26, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Focus

Remember this is an article about a council, not a borough. It should be focussed on the history of the council, not the borough for which we have a separate article. Wording should talk about the councils, not the boroughs/districts. MRSC (talk) 09:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]