Talk:Westland Whirlwind (helicopter)/Archive 1

Archive 1

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On your page for the Westland Whirlwind helicopter you sometimes include a space in the type designation and sometimes not. I wanted to make this consistent but didn't want to make this consistently wrong; which should it be? --Morven 18:59, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Truly I have no idea. I checked, and the RAF Museum has both uses on the same page, so I'm guessing it isn't important. Feel free to pick one. DJ Clayworth 19:03, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Infobox mistake?

Introduced 1950, maiden flight 1953? If the earlier dat erefers to the Sikorsky H-19, isn't this still incorrect as British built versions of Sikorsky products usually differed somewhat? Douglasnicol (talk) 21:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I have changed introduced to 1954 when the first Whirlwind HAR1s were delivered to the RN. MilborneOne (talk) 22:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Whirlwind?

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Is this a Whirlwind?

Yes.Nigel Ish (talk) 23:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Operators

Did France really operated the westland variant ? I read that was built locally by Sud-Est --Jor70 (talk) 00:07, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

I have a S-55 Srs 1 registered 1953 as G-AMYN and then to the French Navy in April 1954. And I believe also operated by the Air Force and the Army, at least one image of an Army operated is on the internet - http://www.paulnann.com/Country.asp?Country=France&Make=Westland&Family=Whirlwind&ImageRef=pn_w4593.jpg MilborneOne (talk) 14:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

You seem to be right! just curious how they ended there. Perhaps sud-est get a sublicence from Westland ? like Westland did with agusta's bell 47 ?--Jor70 (talk) 15:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

37 Whirlwind HAR.2s were delivered to the French Navy during 1954-56 according to Westland Aircraft since 1915, with one WS-55-1 ex G-AMYN to the French Navy and a further six WS-55-1s to France (with no operator stated) I suspect that there must be some double counting going on here to make the production figures add up. And according to Jane's 1953-54, Sud Est did have a license to build the S.55. Curious...Nigel Ish (talk) 17:26, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

HAR.9 question

The article states: HAR.9 6 conversions of HAS.7 with a Bristol Siddeley Gnome gas turbine replacing the Leonides Major engine, RN service I have personally flown 10 different airframes. I cannot say whether they were conversions or new builds. The aircraft referred to are: XN258,XL875, XN311, XN306, XN309, XL389,, XN384, XN298, XN294, XN387 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.45.128 (talk) 10:39, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Their were 12 conversions from HAS.7's:

XL839, XL800 XL875, XL880 & XL898 from original contract 6/Acft/18221/CB.9(b)

XM666 from original contact 6/Acft/15633/CB.9(b)

XN298, XN306, XN309, XN310, XN311 & XN357 from original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)

Apparently there were 16 conversion altogether according to the same book.

The serials you provided:

XL389 = Conversion from HAS.7 - original contract 6/Acft/18221/CB.9(b)

XL875 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown - original contract 6/Acft/18221/CB.9(b)

XN258 = Conversion from HAS.7 - 1966

XN298 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown - original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)

XN306 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown - original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)

XN309 = Conversion from HAS.7 - 1965? - original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)

XN311 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown - original contract KF/2N/015/CB25(a)

XN384 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown

XN387 = Conversion from HAS.7 - date unknown

Gavbadger (talk) 16:22, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Just to add:

1. HAS7 XL839 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 19 November 1965
2. HAS7 XL875 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 16 March 1966
3. HAS7 XL880 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 9 November 1966
4. HAS7 XL898 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 8 March 1966
5. HAS7 XL899 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 4 February 1966
6. HAS7 XL900 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 26 August 1966
7. HAS7 XM666 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 27 September 1966
8. HAS7 XN258 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 7 February 1966
9. HAS7 XN298 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 5 July 1966
10. HAS7 XN306 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 4 April 1966
11. HAS7 XN309 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 10 May 1966
12. HAS7 XN310 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 15 October 1965
13. HAS7 XN311 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 22 April 1966
14. HAS7 XN359 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 21 December 1965
15. HAS7 XN384 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 3 December 1965
16. HAS7 XN386 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 22 July 1966
17. HAS7 XN387 was converted at Weston-super-Mare under Contract KK/K/66/CB.25(a) and first flown 27 May 1966

That makes 17! MilborneOne (talk) 19:16, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

More specs?

Would anybody happen to have specs on any of the planes upgrade to the Gnome turboprop engine? Kamnet (talk) 05:07, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Missing Aircraft

Is The Whirlwind HAR2 helicopter XJ436 still at the bottom of the sea. My father was on the rescue mission that gave up on it's recovery. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariegriffiths (talk • contribs) 15:43, 30 June 2023 (UTC)