Talk:Western yellow robin

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GA Review

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 15:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to take a look at this. Josh Milburn (talk) 15:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"where it is found in Southwest Western Australia, southern coastline and Eyre Peninsula in South Australia" This is a little complex for the first sentence.

yeah moved it down Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:21, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder whether Gould belongs in the second paragraph of the lead, while the ecological information belongs in the first. I'd say ecology is generally of more interest to readers than taxonomy. On that note, though, I wonder if mention of the eastern yellow robin and of the subspecies of the western yellow robin belongs in the lead.

rejigged Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:21, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeing a hidden note with "damn not griseus" - does this need looking into?

not any more. I found a better ref that covered the whole issue better. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is Cliff Head worth a link? Or, alternatively, a description? ("near the village of Newville")

finding a reliable source is proving highly elusive.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It's perhaps not completely clear what is meant by "The former".

true - a bit tenuous. clarified Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Any sexual dimorphism? It's not mentioned.

plumage is the same, I think size is too. will check again Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:21, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a source, a mention that there is no/little sexual dimorphism would be a good addition! Josh Milburn (talk) 15:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:11, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Dongara and Rockingham" Links? Also Toolonga.

linked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:34, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"found in eucalypt forest and woodland, and mallee and acacia-scrub in dryer (semi-arid) regions" Some wikilinks would help here

linked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:34, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The second paragraph of the distribution section could be smoother - especially the third sentence.

rejigged Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:27, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What's a helper bird?

Explained in Cooperative breeding, which I have linked to Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:26, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You're inconsistent when it comes to including/linking specific names and common names, but I don't think that's something to get excited about at GAC. FAC maybe...

scientific names added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:46, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"or wattles, or she-oaks" Links? I wonder if this sentence could be a bit smoother.

rejigged. wattles already linked (Acacia - changed word to clarify) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:46, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You have a second "behaviour" section, the contents of which need to be merged elsewhere.

merged Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Any information about lifespan?

not much. added Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:21, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Any information about cultural significance? I assume they aren't eaten or kept aviaries...

Culturally, it often mentioned as a familiar sight and sound in SW Australia. The eastern yellow in kept, but I found no mention of this species. If someone mentions the eggs being pilfered for food I will add it when found. ~ cygnis insignis 01:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

nothing turning up :( Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:31, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References look fine; I'm not going to pick fault with formatting for a GA review. Pictures look fine. Generally, a very good read! Please check my edits. Josh Milburn (talk) 15:57, 18 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy to stand aside now that Cas is working on this, but if I created any mysteries then let me know. ~ cygnis insignis 01:59, 19 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"The species inhabits open eucalypt forest, woodland and scrub, generally with significant understory, across Southwest Western Australia, southern coastline and Eyre Peninsula in South Australia." I'm struggling a little with this; some wikilinks would be helpful, and the reference to the coastline is tricky. Do you mean something like "...across Southwest [aside: is that a proper noun?] Western Australia, on the southern coastline of South Australia, and on the Eyre Peninsula"? Josh Milburn (talk) 20:01, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah I see, no I mean this " across Southwest and southern coastline of Western Australia, and Eyre Peninsula in South Australia. " Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:52, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Err, @J Milburn: - anything you're still unhappy with? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - I haven't forgotten about this! Josh Milburn (talk) 06:39, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still not loving that sentence, and I ran it by someone else and she thought it was off, too. Can I suggest the following: "The species inhabits open eucalypt forest, woodland and scrub, generally favouring habitats with significant understory. Its range comprises the southwest of Western Australia and the state's southern coastline, and as well as the Eyre Peninsula in South Australia." Does that say what you want it to? Josh Milburn (talk) 17:08, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, and incorporated thus Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:13, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, great. I've made a last couple of tweaks, and I'm now happy to promote. Great working with you, as ever. Josh Milburn (talk) 10:40, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]