Talk:Western Sahara Autonomy Proposal

Re-thinking this title

"Autonomy for Western Sahara" sounds like it addresses a whole range of autonomy considerations, when really this page is about the recently submitted Moroccan proposal for Autonomy. The title should reflect this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.17.68.6 (talk • contribs).

I moved this page to Moroccan Initiative for the Western Sahara. It seems like the most "official" name, especially given this link. Certainly, that site might not be 100-percent neutral, but the name sounds good, right? — Rebelguys2 ^talk 00:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Threepwolfe 19:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

As you are talking about autonomy. I wonder why Backer Plan is on the page. The Autonomy initiative is quite different from the Backer Plan I & II.--Moroccansahraoui (talk) 11:40, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

resource management

propasal letter 105.160.31.199 (talk) 09:21, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

how to wright a letter of propasal 105.160.31.199 (talk) 09:22, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Spain, France and Ukraine

@M.Bitton: Sanchez does not claim he fully support the plan. Same for France. Also, for Ukraine, it is according to pro-Morrocco regime. Panam2014 (talk) 14:40, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

@Panam2014: For Sanchez: his unilateral decision was rejected by the congress. Later on, he stated in his UN speech that "Spain supports a mutually acceptable political solution."

France went from describing the plan as "a serious, credible basis.." to "the only basis .." (a change in position that has been interpreted to mean a support for the plan).

Ukraine: setting aside the BS title of the unreliable source, Ukraine describes the plan as a "serious basis .." (which is totally different from supporting the proposal). M.Bitton (talk) 00:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

I would like to add to this discussion this source :

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/un-envoy-proposes-western-sahara-partition-plan-2024-10-17/

That says 'In July, France became the second permanent Security Council member after the U.S. to back Morocco's sovereignty over the territory.' Sayuuuto (talk) 15:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

@M.Bitton, Sayuuuto, and Tidjani Saleh: yes, France have recognized yesterday Western Sahara as Morrocan territory, but not in July 2024. And the map updated. Panam2014 (talk) 14:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

I will repeat here what I said in another discussion:

France supports the autonomy proposal:

As announced by @EmmanuelMacron, Morocco’s autonomy plan for the Western Sahara forms the only basis for reaching a just and lasting political solution negotiated in line with @UN Security Council resolutions.

The rest is just what a repeat of what the actual autonomy proposal states (Morocco proposes broad autonomy under Moroccan sovereignty). At no point did Macron expressly recognize the "Moroccanness" of the Sahara (there are plenty of French sources stating "Sans reconnaître expressément la "marocanité" du Sahara").

Besides, since Morocco is regarded by the UN as an occupier that has no sovereignty over the territory that is awaiting decolonization, a state cannot recognize such illegal sovereignty "in line with @UN Security Council resolutions" (which Macron repeated during his speech by saying: "le plan d'autonomie de 2007 constitue la seule base pour parvenir à une solution politique juste, durable et négociée, conformément aux résolutions du Conseil de sécurité des Nations unies"). The only way to do it would have to be the illegal way, like Trump did. M.Bitton (talk) 15:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Do you have a source for "Sans reconnaître expressément la "marocanité" dated October 2024? Panam2014 (talk) 20:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)