Talk:West Bloomfield Township, Michigan

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The result of the move request was: withdrawn(non-admin closure) Gtwfan52 (talk) 04:12, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

West Bloomfield Township, Michigan → West Bloomfield, Michigan – While the official name of this municipality is Charter Township of West Bloomfield, the common name is undoubtedly West Bloomfield (and not West Bloomfield Township). Per WP:COMMONNAME, this article should be titled West Bloomfield, Michigan. Relisted. BDD (talk) 05:16, 7 July 2013 (UTC) Wikipedian77 (talk) 18:54, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Looking at the various categories found at Category:Townships in Michigan by county, for example Category:Townships in Oakland County, Michigan and Category:Townships in Hillsdale County, Michigan, it appears that this is the standard way that townships in Michigan are named. Offhand I couldn't find a single township that didn't include the word "Township" in its title. I don't think we should change just one article name and make it an outlier, when there are hundreds of other articles whose titles include the word "Township". --MelanieN (talk) 20:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The articles for Canton and Redford—both of which are townships—do not include "Township" in their titles. I feel that this is proper because they are the common names for these municipalities. (These titles are therefore in accordance with WP:COMMONNAME.) Some townships, West Bloomfield included, currently have XXX Township as their title while their common name is simply XXX. If I made a consolidated move request for all the townships in Metro Detroit that are not commonly referred to as XXX Township, would you consider supporting it? —Wikipedian77 (talk) 22:37, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Without any evidence supporting the claim that the form without township is more common than with, I'm inclined to oppose. The http://www.twp.west-bloomfield.mi.us/announcements/West%20Bloomfield%20Summer%202013%20Newsletter.pdf[ township newletter] uses township quite prominently. older ≠ wiser 12:19, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Although in the Metro Detroit area, the name most people use in vernacular is West Bloomfield, the name that printed sources do seem to use is West Bloomfield Township. Therefore, I no longer wish to move this article. —Wikipedian77 (talk) 22:23, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Fix the Census Reference Links

Listen, people: the links to the American Fact Finder for census data on this place are screwed. You should make them link to the relevant tables instead of the main American Fact Finder Page. In fact, this is such poor sourcing that you better fix it or I am going to delete all of the data and mark it as non-Verifiable. Because as it stands, it aint verifieable. Fix it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.37.195 (talk) 03:36, 22 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Use of subjective adjectives in lede

There has been an edit war of late on this article regarding the use of the subjective adjective "affluent" in the lede on this article. I and many other editors feel the use of this adjective is improper, not only here, but in any Wikipedia settlement article. It is inherently POV.

Why? I am not at all saying this is not a community with a lot of very "comfortable" people living in it. It is, I know it. I have dined with some folks there in homes that have dazzled me beyond compare. The problem is the term. Affluence, as defined in Wictonary is:

Noun

An abundant flow or supply.
An abundance of wealth.
His affluence was surpassed by no man.
A moderate level of wealth.
The had achieved affluence, but aspired to true wealth.
An influx.

Nothing in that definition states any objective quality which merits the description "affluent". Do we measure it on net worth? On annual income? On home value? And even if we could decide where to measure it, at what level of that measurement does one become affluent?

To an man living in a cardboard box under a bridge, a guy who sleeps in the back of his car seems pretty affluent. To a successful cattle rancher in Eastern Oregon, Warren Buffett and even some of the people who live in WBT may seem pretty affluent. But to the guy that moves that ranchers irrigators, the rancher's worth of several million dollars may seem like more affluence than he can comfortably conceive of.

In short, the use of adjectives such as "affluent" or "poor" or "upscale" is nothing but WP:PEACOCK. If you have never read that part of the WP:MOS policy, it is, briefly, the use of words that sound good but add nothing to the factual content of the article. So let's just stick to the facts and let the impressive econommic demographics that are in the article speak for themselves, ok? John from Idegon (talk) 22:49, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Chaldean people link

The link to "Chaldean people" that has been twice included in this article DOES NOT refer to a Wikipedia page which describes the people it is referring to. The link should either be pointed towards something informational and relevant or not included at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.41.139 (talk) 06:36, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

TO REITERATE: The link "CHALDEAN PEOPLE" points to an article about an ancient civilization from 4th century BCE with NO INFORMATION connecting it to any modern human community, especially not one in suburban Michigan. The continued addition of this irrelevant links is vandalism. How dare you accuse me of NPOV when your continued edits diminish the informational value of the article. For shame. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.41.139 (talk) 07:43, 29 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Using all capital case letters on the internet is the equivalent of shouting in real life. Please don't do it. If another editor objects to a change in content such as you made they revert it. It is then up to the editor wanting the change to form a consensus on what to include. The changes stay out until a consensus is formed. If you cannot form a consensus then the content does not change. Your problem it appears is not with this article but with the linked article. Most likely you should raise your concerns there. Please properly sign your postings. John from Idegon (talk) 03:58, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]