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Requested move

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This page was moved with no announcement or discussion from Wenham, Massachusetts to Wenham, Essex County, Massachusetts, and then Wenham, Massachusetts was made a disambig page between this and some neighborhood in Carver, Massachusetts also called Wenham. I believe that this move is inappropriate, and ought to be reversed, for the following reasons:

  • No evidence of notability is put forward for the neighborhood of Wenham in Carver; indeed, there isn't even an article about the Carver neighborhood. For this reason, I argue that the disambig page is unnecessary.
  • There is no evidence that the neighborhood in Carver is ever referred to as "Wenham, Massachusetts", whereas the town is called "Wenham, Massachusetts" all the time (as a postal address, for example). In other words, the town of Wenham is the primary topic for the article title "Wenham, Massachusetts" and should be under that title.

AJD (talk) 19:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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Where is the disambiguation page now? --Una Smith (talk) 05:22, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't a Wenham (disambiguation) but I think Wenham, Massachusetts redirects to the town in Essex County. I had a conversation going with User:Nyttend to make sure the coverage was still extant for the Wenham village I discovered in Carver, but haven't heard back for a day or two and haven't checked myself, so I'm not entirely sure what the status is. You can see pieces of the conversation at User talk:Nyttend#Wenham and User talk:Aepoutre#Wenham. --Aepoutre (talk) 07:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nyttend (admin) took the liberty of moving the town article back to Wenham, Massachusetts, but left this talk page behind. I cannot find any disambiguation page. The Wenham in Carver is a historical name, not in current use, so I might use a hatnote on Wenham, Massachusetts pointing to Carver, Massachusetts. If there is to be a disambiguation page, I would put it at Wenham, which has about 120 incoming links in mainspace. There are several articles associated with Wenham (meaning the MA town), and it has been my experience in disambiguating similar place names that it is necessary to disperse links among the associated articles. See for example Enfield (Talk:Enfield) and Weymouth (Talk:Weymouth, Dorset#Disambiguation). --Una Smith (talk) 15:47, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I can't say if it's in current use or not, but I did find it on Google Maps. I left the story of my discovery on Nyttend's talk page, in case you haven't had a chance to look at it. Thanks for fixing the Talk page; I hadn't even noticed. --Aepoutre (talk) 04:25, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tag at top

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I'm doing a brief edit of the refs. Generally WP is against raw url's and also web sites as refs. However considerable information is stated in the official website. I notice some advertisments have been stated in the external links. Hold out your hands, you get a mental ruler blow or even a face slap in memory of Miss B. or you might have to go to the office for a stern lecture from the other Miss B. I'm taking out the blatent commercial sites. They may be your only source but they are still not according to policy. I'm taking the tag off the top. It is dated 2009. The article has a complement of refs now. If you think some specific statement needs a ref you can either find one or put a request for a ref on that statement. Generally WP favors classical refs such as you would see in a scholarly article,at least in its stated policy, so if you want to expand, perhaps you should find an old history of Wenham. There's plenty around. Depends on the time you want to spend.Branigan 11:11, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Verification needed

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The last paragraph of the history has a chain of two refs apparently on the 1997 changes to the museum. The problem is, the refs are dated to 1943 and 1993. What, were the authors prophets? Exactly why are they in there and what do they say? Unfortunately one is a rare pamphlet. The paragraph is very short. It should not be difficult to find all of its facts in more convenient sources, if indeed they are correct. Or, if you actually have the pamphlet, perhaps you could place it on the right fact and make the prophecy paradox go away?Branigan 12:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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