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A fact from Watermelon stereotype appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 April 2013 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that contrary to the racist stereotype that African Americans eat more watermelon than average (1909 illustration pictured), a survey showed that they actually eat less?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2013/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Watermelon Stereotype.

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Another possible image

File:Scrub Me Mama watermelon.JPG from the 1941 Scrub Me Mama with a Boogie Beat. Chris857 (talk) 20:26, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Game controversy

Here you can find out about the fuss surrounding Scribblenauts puzzle game, where they 'accidentally' linked the word 'sambo' with what looks a hell of a lot like a watermelon. "Creative director Jeremiah Slaczka told Joystiq that "sambo" is an Ecuadorian name for "fig leaf gourd." The gourd looks like a watermelon because 5th Cell reuses art for a number of in-game items." Hillbillyholiday ^talk 09:32, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Linked to this article from others

FYI, I added a bunch of links to this articles from appropriate text in other articles. KConWiki (talk) 23:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Political Demagoguery?

Just to quantify first, I'm not an American nor am I politically conservative. However, I would like to say that the placement following quoted section and it's dubious citation source seemed to be ideologically motivated, with the purpose being to reinforce a narrative that Republicans are racist. Due to President Obama's strong showing early in the 2008 primaries, some supporters of Dodd, Kucinich and Clinton also used racist watermelon and fried chicken themed imagery. In addition the Democratic party itself has a long history of officially using watermelon and fried chicken racist imagery in it's advertising and campaign materials. However no mention of such has been included here.

Wikipedia is not a place for scoring cheap political points. I would recommend either the deletion of the following, or inclusion of relevant Democratic Party watermelon/racism campaign articles.

"After his election, racist watermelon-themed imagery of Obama has continued to be created and endorsed, some of it by members of the Republican Party.[4]"

philip72 (talk) 18:03, 13 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.152.213.68 (talk) [reply]

If you have some sources to back your statement up, feel free to share them here, and if they're valid i've no doubt that people here won't mind it being put in the article one bit! Thanks for the tip about the Democratic Party, i will have a quick look into it (not my arena really as a limey!). Hillbillyholiday ^talk 03:42, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that the inclusion of references to the Republican party are clearly politically motivated by the left-leaning liberals, and thus are inappropriate for a Wikipedia article. An encyclopedia is not a partisan political soap box. Additionally, I'd say that implying that a political party is in any way racist also explicitly violates WP:NPOV. I would recommend deletion of the language having anything to do with political parties and candidates. 98.178.179.240 (talk) 00:15, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah it's disgusting the way we violate WP:NPOV with our Nazi Party article. How dare we imply a political party, which was highly involved in the murders of millions of people based on their race done with the explicit intention of the party of wiping out some races, was racist? Nil Einne (talk) 20:29, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fried chicken stereotype

Should the fried chicken stereotype receive its own page as well? --75.128.66.5 (talk) 02:55, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How did the fried chicken business start? Watermelons are native to Africa, and were being grown in the new world by the Spanish. When African slaves arrived around the Caribbean they knew the fruit well, and cultivated it. This was long before the British seized Egypt from Napoleon; see the dubious Arab bit in the article.203.221.203.63 (talk) 11:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am inclined to remove the "dubious Arab bit" - looking at the source the Atlantic cites, it doesn't bear the burden imposed upon it. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:26, 20 August 2016 (UTC).[reply]

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Copyright violation?

Good morning, Tomer T. Please explain the reason this tag? Thanks. Kire1975 (talk) 11:13, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kire1975, the exact phrasing was copied from the source. Tomer T (talk) 11:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for responding Tomer T, I've tried copying and pasting different phrases in that paragraph into a find button on the source and I haven't been able to find what you're talking about. I've also searched WP:CITENEED and don't see where copying exact phrasing is a copyright violation. Even if it was a copyright violation, could you not WP:JUSTFIXIT yourself without talking about it? See WP:RESPTAG. Kire1975 (talk) 02:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kire1975.

Search "grew" in [1]. The phrasing for two sentences is copied word-by-word.
Read Wikipedia:Copyright violations: "Even inserting text copied with some changes can be a copyright violation if there is substantial linguistic similarity in creative language or sentence structure; this is known as close paraphrasing, which can also raise concerns about plagiarism."
Not sure how to change the phrasing myself, but I thought it's better to add the tagging instead of ignoring it or completely remove it.
Other parts of the articles should be thoroughly checked for additional potential copyvios. Tomer T (talk) 08:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I found it Tomer T. Thanks. Considering there's already a large quote from that same Atlantic article at the top of the history section, I'm inclined to delete the paragraph in the Lead completely. It doesn't add much, and the article currently has about 20,000 characters in it. According to MOS:LEADLENGTH the appropriate length should only be two or three paragraphs. I'm going to remove it, if you object let's talk about it here first. Thanks again. Kire1975 (talk) 10:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

August 2022

There is currently a discussion on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding this page that editors here may be interested in. Kire1975 (talk) 22:13, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]