Talk:Waterborne disease
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Allergic infection
[edit]What , it could just be included into the other tables as a separate column (so that instead of looking at an illness in one table and having to look it up in another, it would just be in the same table. am adding the kingdom names to each section also since the heading "Parasitic" is misleading considering there are parasitic protozoa.Matt.leeck (talk) 13:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Under Construction
[edit]I am making my current primary objective to be fixing this page and making a decent article out of what was a vague, questionable list. The work is still in progress, sorry for the inconvenience if any...Matt.leeck (talk) 03:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Errr... new here of course, but...
[edit]I had occasion to link to WBDisease, so I checked on the article, and frankly was dismayed. I don't think it has been well conceived. Needs full re-write. I don't mind having a go, but I am not a medic. If anyone is contemplating doing it properly, fine, but if not, is there a doctor in the house? I would prefer at least to bounce my outlines off someone competent before investing serious time. JonRichfield (talk) 14:54, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Should this really be classified as a "list" type article? Could have great potential
[edit]I have been working on sanitation-related Wikipedia articles for the last six months but have only come across this one now, after seeing a link in the template on pollution template:Pollution. This article could have great potential (very important topic), and I don't think it should be classified as "list" type, as it contains much more than just a listing? It should actually be linked to from a number of other pages, e.g. sanitation, fecal-oral route, open defecation. It would be good if someone with a medical background could look over this article to see if it is any good. What is your opinion about this article, Doc_James? What aspects of it should be improved and how? EvM-Susana (talk) 07:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
- I have changed it now from a list article to a class C article, as I think it's more than a mere list. I also linked to it from these three pages: sanitation, fecal-oral route, open defecation. Thoughts anyone? Doc_James? EvM-Susana (talk) 08:01, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
How to deal with overlapping content in other articles?
[edit]I am currently working on the section "health aspects" in the article on WASH. I am trying to get my head around how to link and match that article to this one so that we don't end up with too much overlap. Any suggestions? EMsmile (talk) 05:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
New Addition to Socioeconomic impact section
[edit]I am thinking about adding the perspective of how the economic stability of a community impacts how significant waterborne diseases are there.Sakura727 (talk) 23:36, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
Question about citation
[edit]Is all the information before the given cited source -no matter how many sentences- from that source? Sakura727 (talk) 01:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sakura727 it can be but if in doubt then I think it's better to simply repeat the same citation several times. If the sentences clearly belong together then I guess it's sufficient to add the citation to the first or last sentence of the sequence.
History of Waterborne Diseases
[edit]I'm adding a section talking about the history of waterborne diseases and understanding them.A.pink236 (talk) 21:13, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- I added the history section of understanding waterborne diseases, but it's mainly centered around Europe and Great Britain. If anyone has any information about the history of understanding waterborne diseases from other cultures/perspectives, please add on.A.pink236 (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
- That's good but I don't think it needs to be expanded further because we have a separate article for that: History of water supply and sanitation and also WASH#Health_aspects. We need to be mindful of not duplicating similar information on several different pages.EMsmile (talk) 12:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- I have done some work on this section; I have actually drastically shortened it and moved it to History of water supply and sanitation to ensure we don't double up on information in several different places. This is still work in progress as I'll be looking at other articles to see if they also duplicate information about the history of the scientific understanding of waterborne diseases... EMsmile (talk)
- That's good but I don't think it needs to be expanded further because we have a separate article for that: History of water supply and sanitation and also WASH#Health_aspects. We need to be mindful of not duplicating similar information on several different pages.EMsmile (talk) 12:21, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
Restructuring done
[edit]I have restructured the article a bit to give it the standard headings that we use for disease articles. Remember the article started out as a pure "list" article. I think it's good that it got expanded but we need to link across to the main other articles, such as sanitation rather than writing up similar content here. EMsmile (talk) 09:39, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Content about the various flukes?
[edit]This is not my principal area of expertise and I wonder whether somebody with better knowledge could add in the various flukes (schistosomiasis, liver fluke etc)into the parasitic worms section. They get a substantive mention in the lede but ought to be covered in more detail in the tables. Although the lede text suggests that skin contact is the major route of infection, there is plenty of evidence of transmission through contaminated drinking water, including upland stream water draining sheep pastures. Thanks Velella Velella Talk 14:50, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
I really struggle with this article. It is a popular topic which you can see from the high view rates (800 views per day). It also seems to be popular for student assignments. But it overlaps a lot with WASH (which has only 200 views per day). I am wondering how we can improve on that. This article started out with purely a list of waterborne diseases. Now it is beginning to talk about costs, social aspects, history and so forth - all topics that are covered in WASH as well. Which article should become the main article and which the sub-article? I would lean towards moving content to WASH and keeping this one more as a list of diseases. Note that diseases caused by lack of sanitation include waterborne diseases but also those that are not waterborne but rather transmitted via soil (helminthiasis). EMsmile (talk) 01:59, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- I suspect that it is not only popular with student assignments but also for general readers interested in water-borne diseases.
- "Water borne diseases" is the natural title per WP:COMMONAME and I would argue strongly that it should remain at that title with substantive content and not a list. WASH is a commendable initiative but very few readers will have heard of it and it is not our role to be proselytising. By all means conserve the links between the articles but putting the substantive content into WASH would, IMHO, be a very retrograde step. Velella Velella Talk 07:38, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi User:Velella so what is the solution then to avoid that the same content appears in two places? In this article and at WASH#Health aspects? Since that content will need to be updated from time to time it would be more efficient if it would mainly reside in one article and then the other article to link across. EMsmile (talk) 20:22, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- Can you give me a short thinking space? I understand the issue but I would like to give both a helpful and a measured response. I will do my best to respond soon. Regards Velella Velella Talk 21:35, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
- OK, no worries. I think the current solution is quite good: This article's main content is the list of diseases. For details on those diseases, what they do to people, how they can be prevented and how wide spread they are we then point people to the relevant sub-articles, rather than repeating again the same content. I think it works quite OK like this. EMsmile (talk) 07:57, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- Can you give me a short thinking space? I understand the issue but I would like to give both a helpful and a measured response. I will do my best to respond soon. Regards Velella Velella Talk 21:35, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 1 October 2022
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Per consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 09:02, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Waterborne diseases → Waterborne disease – singular 2601:541:4580:8500:1828:B837:8DF8:6B3D (talk) 09:13, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose. After thinking about it some more and reading the oppose below, I think this probably is a case where WP:PLURAL applies.
Support per WP:SINGULAR. Also move Acid peptic diseases, Immune-mediated inflammatory diseases, Divers diseases, Neglected tropical diseases, Coronavirus diseases and Vaccine-preventable diseases to singular titles.Rreagan007 (talk) 16:24, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't mind either way but I wouldn't move Neglected tropical diseases as it's always thought of in plural form, I would argue. It's a slightly artificial way of grouping a bunch of diseases into one category. I think it would be rare to see it used in the singular form. EMsmile (talk) 16:30, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose: Per WP:NCPLURAL, the names of classes of things are often given in the plural. This is an article about a class of various otherwise-different different diseases that share one characteristic. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:33, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
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