Talk:Washington State Senate

Changes

I removed the link to Project Vote Smart because it was dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.90.166 (talk) 01:19, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Umm... Why whenever I try to update this page do people change it back? 67.160.106.255 07:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

If you're removing data without giving any explanation in the edit summary, others would then have to hunt around for reasons why you did, most would revert instead.--Alf ^melmac 07:55, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh, alright then. It seemed like a pretty obvious change, but whatever... 67.160.106.255 08:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Link for Steve Hobbs

I don't know how to fix it but it goes to the wrong Hobbs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 135.214.40.68 (talk) 17:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC).

Residence

The "Residence" category is actually referring to the name of their districts that they represent by whichever largest city they are associated with. The whole point is that people who are within the State of Washington knows where their district lies. A particular issue with Don Benton being from Mount Vista is a big issue here. I knew Benton was my representative but I knew that he was not listed correctly. No one knows where the heck is Mount Vista is in the entire State of Washington. They do know for a fact where Vancouver is which Mount Vista is WITHIN Vancouver.

The following changes were based on SOURCED information from many various news articles which the disagreeing editor however is using information based on I assume to be original research:

John Smith - Colville : Source

Bob Hasegawa - Seattle : Source This saying Beacon Hill IN Seattle

Janéa Holmquist Newbry - Moses Lake Source

Mike Hewitt - Walla Walla Source

Don Benton - My representative and he is not from "Mount Vista" as it is not an actual city especially since it has no government. Only a Home Owners Associations is the closest thing. Vancouver is the government over this region within the city Source

Paull Shin - Edmonds Source

Nathan Schlicher - Gig Harbor Source

Tracey Eide - Federal Way Source

Maralyn Chase - Shoreline Source

Karen Keiser - Kent Source

Jeanne Kohl-Welles - Seattle Source

Kevin Ranker - Orcas Island Source

Ed Murray - Seattle Source

Andy Hill - Redmond Source

David Frockt - Seattle Source

Rodney Tom - Bellevue Source Rodney Tom's twitter says Bellevue

Annette Cleveland - Vancouver Source

I'll be open to discussion. ViriiK (talk) 06:37, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I would not quite trust the news media to give an accurate statement of where a lawmaker lives. See this description of how the AP Stylebook discusses party affiliation (and when to use [or not] the lawmaker's hometown. Editing Words: AP style party affiliation. The point is that going by media sources may not be the best way to determine where a legislator lives. However, since the addresses of each elected official is a public record, it is not necessarily "original research" to find where they do live. For Rodney Tom, despite his Twitter handle, there are 19,000 plus hits for ""Rodney Tom" +Medina" and 45,000 plus hits for ""Rodney Tom" +Bellevue." His own reelection website says "Bellevue Senator" and that he lives "in Medina with his two kids. Senator Rodney Tom Announces Re-Election Campaign For State. My sense is that residence means residence, not the largest city in one's district.Enos733 (talk) 07:19, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

That may be one example but particularly those cities are CDP regions which are another thing. Don Benton may live in an HOA neighborhood that calls itself Mount Vista but it's not a legal address recognized by the post office. Another issue is that the news identifies those Senators & Representatives within respective cities rather than CDP's or neighborhoods as the editor was trying to do. I can understand the Rodney Tom thing which it varies however Medina is a legally recognized city by the post office so that's understandable. Beacon Hill in Seattle is not a legally recognized city or town but rather just a neighborhood called that. The legal address for that particular area is still Seattle. My point is that we're talking about recognition of cities by the general public and repetition that the media uses to identify Senators. ViriiK (talk) 07:34, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

FWIW Mount Vista is a Census-designated place, so there is some legal recognition of the area. I do not believe 1) the media is accurate or consistent in describing where a Senator is from and 2) that the actual residence of a legislator provides helpful information about the legislator (and is [often] consistent with their individual wikipedia page. Enos733 (talk) 20:28, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

The media may not always be accurate but Wikipedia still uses them for secondary source purposes always. See WP:PRIMARY for more info on this. Since those information of their locations were found in media sources and consistently, we use those labelings based on these secondary sources. You had a point with Rodney Tom / Medina which had varying degress of differences but Benton R-Mount Vista was not being used for example but rather R-Vancouver consistently among the secondary sources. The editor may have questioned the media on my talk page but until the media starts using it more recently based on accurate locations, we still have to stick to what the sources say. ViriiK (talk) 23:59, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

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