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This article was mentioned in a Slate podcast

Slate podcasts recently released a podcast as part of their "One Year: 1995" series: [1]. It's a story about the deceptive marketing tactics of Warnborough College. In the podcast it is reported that the administration of this college have accused certain Wikipedia editors of being a "cartel". --Salimfadhley (talk) 18:36, 23 November 2021 (UTC).

Interesting podcast, sheds significant light on how the 1987 BBC radio expose precipitated the financial crisis which led Warnborough to the disastrous decision to hold itself out as a 4-year college and the aggressive and misleading marketing to US students. Also, there was an interesting article in Spy many years ago about the Australia program with similarly misleading marketing. I added a bit from both sources to the article. Banks Irk (talk) 20:52, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Old boring 'news' with lots of wrong information. 212.159.24.153 (talk) 16:14, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Not deceptive at all. All students at that time received a prior arrival letter from the Registrar that the college was NOT part of Oxford University. Salim, I remember us Dons in Oxford laughed how dumb these students were. Eril Scott (talk) 07:38, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

Profit v Non-Profit

Several SPA's have changed the infobox to state that Warnborough College is a non-profit, and to list the Warnborough Foundation, without any reliable source to back up those changes.

Warnborough College Ltd is a for-profit corporation in the UK. Its annual reports filed with Companies House in the UK shows that it is a for-profit corporation which pays tax on its profits.[2]

Perhaps the SPA editors are referring to the recently-formed Warnborough Foundation in making the non-profit claim. The Foundation is registered as a charity in the UK.[3]. However, there are no independent reliable sources as to the existence or operation of the foundation, so it would be a violation of WP:V to include information on the foundation in the article. And, it is, to put it most charitably, misleading and confusing to conflate the foundation with the college on this question of fact. Banks Irk (talk) 16:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Suggest you look at the website: www.warnborough.foundation where many projects are underway helping marginalised people and communities learn skills for employment. (eril) Eril Scott (talk) 07:27, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

The Warnborough Foundation is receiving much charity funding, and donations for the work it is doing with Ukrainian refugees needing English and skills training for employment (eril) Eril Scott 212.159.24.153 (talk) 09:59, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

To repeat, there are no independent, reliable secondary sources on the Warnborough Foundation or its activities. Its own website is not a reliable source. Banks Irk (talk) 14:26, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

YES there is a lot of good news that will be cited soon. Perhaps you should focus on the scandals at other colleges and universities! (Eril) 212.159.24.153 (talk) 09:41, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Recent addition on Boars Hill

I'm basically fine with the bulk of the most recent edit, but I have some reservations about the additional section on Boars Hill. It is basically repetitive of material already in the article regarding the facilities there, and the part about it being "sold" overlooks that it was repossessed. There is a discussion of the site at the Boars Hill article. At first, I was thinking of adapting that as a substitute for this addition, but I'm thinking that it is a bit of a coatrack to get into a discussion of what happened to the site after Warnborough College Oxford was liquidated. If the consensus was to include a subsection on the site, I'd propose the following as an alternative:

--Buildings and sites

--From 1976 to 1996, Warnborough College Oxford, was located at the former facilities of Plater College (which had relocated to Headington), the Bishop's palace of the Diocese of Oxford, and Yatscombe Hall, on Boar's Hill. After the college was liquidated and the property repossessed, the site was occupied by squatters. The site of the former Bishop's palace and Yatscombe Hall was then subject to planning disputes for over a decade thereafter. Yatscombe Hall was destroyed by fire in December 2003 and all the buildings on the site were demolished. A retirement village was planned for the site, but eventually a development of a four large country homes was built instead by Millgate Homes.

Remains of Yatscombe Hall in January 2004

But, as I said above, I think this gets a bit far afield from the actual subject matter of this article, and I think that this new subsection on buildings and sites would be best deleted. Banks Irk (talk) 18:25, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

• Notwithstanding my own advice, I added this bit and did a little other clarification and reorganization. Banks Irk (talk) 16:38, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

  Suggest you read the History of Oxford University where they discriminated against Jews, Catholics, Women, Non-Conformists, Non-Whites etc. and they used to hang students! Warnborough has not reached this level! Eril Scott (talk) 07:44, 21 August 2022 (UTC)