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A fact from Walker Keith Baylor appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 18 March 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Walker Keith Baylor, a strong believer in phrenology and physiognomy, determined the fitness of political candidates by measuring their faces and heads with a tape measure?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/March. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Walker Keith Baylor.

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The result was: promoted by Rjjiii talk 03:26, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Walker Keith Baylor voted in favor of a bill entitled "an act to more effectually prevent Sabbath breaking"? Source: Journal of the Alabama House of Representatives of the State of Alabama, begun and held at the town of Cahawba, on the third Monday in Nobember, 1825, Being the Seventh Annual Session of the General Assembly of Said State. Cahawba: William B. Allen, State Printers. 1826. pp. 100–101 – via the Wayback Machine.
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Created by Aneirinn (talk). Self-nominated at 23:07, 27 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Walker Keith Baylor; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Drive-by comment - the hook as written is not particularly interesting. It's not really surprising that a guy from Alabama in 1825 would vote this way. It might be marginally more interesting if we include his other vote of interest. Something like:
- ALT1: ... that Walker Keith Baylor voted for the prevention of Sabbath breaking, but against the suppression of immoral behavior?
Then at least you have the juxtaposition of the stances, which is somewhat more interesting. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 07:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, I totally agree, the proposed alternative is much more interesting and a great improvement. Aneirinn (talk) 03:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT2:... that Walker Keith Baylor issued a penal bond to his predecessor in the Alabama Senate while a judge? Source: "Deeds—Wills—Administrations of Jefferson County, Alabama" (PDF). Birmingham Public Library. pp. 13, 14.
  "Journal of the Senate at a Session of the General Assembly of the State of Alabama" (PDF). 1837.
  Journal of the Senate, at a session of the General Assembly of the State of Alabama, begun and held in the City of Tuscaloosa, on the first Monday in December 1838. Tuscaloosa: Hale & Eaton, State Printers. 1838. p. 2 – via the Wayback Machine.
- ALT3:... that Walker Keith Baylor was a frequent visitor to the Old University of Alabama Observatory? Source: Owen, Thomas McAdory (1921). History of Alabama and Dictionary of Alabama Biography. Vol. 3. Chicago: The S. J. Clarke Publishing Company. p. 117 – via the Wayback Machine.

I'll take this one, but Aneirinn - is there a reason you haven't proposed a hook to do with him measuring candidates with a tape line?--Laun chba ller 15:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Long enough, new enough. ALT1 the most interesting hook thus far proposed, and cited and short enough. Earwig is clean, and prose is neutral. QPQ unnecessary. Several places require inline citations, which I've marked with citation needed tags, and you'll need to remedy them before I can approve this.--Laun chba ller 16:09, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- ALT4:... that Walker Keith Baylor had strong beliefs in phrenology and physiognomy, and his convictions were acted upon by measuring the face and head of political candidates with a tape line to determine their fitness? Source: Garrett, William (1872). Reminiscences of Public Men in Alabama: For Thirty Years. With an Appendix. Atlanta: Plantation Publishing Company's Press. pp. 223–224 – via Google Books.
  - Laun chba ller, I do not have a reason why it wasn't proposed, but here is one option. The inline citations should be fixed now. Aneirinn (talk) 05:35, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that hook is too long, but it is interesting and AGF cited. If it's alright with you, I could approve the following:

ALT5: ... that Walker Keith Baylor, a strong believer in phrenology and physiognomy, determined the fitness of political candidates by measuring their face and head with a tape line?--Laun chba ller 07:52, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's alright with me, thanks! Aneirinn (talk) 08:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, let's roll.--Laun chba ller 08:42, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]