Talk:Walford

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Walford, the fictionalsettting for the BBC's EastEnders and in reallife a suburb in Liverpool close to West Derby where in the past,filming for the Channel 4 soap Brookside has taken place for various episodes and also programmes like the police drama, Waterfront Beat and Z Cars.

Businesses

I think there should be a section here with al ist of all the businesses and a list of employees working in each one,it would look really well:) Brianwazere 16:03, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

We used to have a separate list of businesses. I don't know if it would be a good idea because it's more in-universe information and this article doesn't contain enough real-world information. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:23, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

i thinnk that we should have a lsit of business as yet another business has opened 'Kimberleys Palace' so where does that go?--MayhemMario (talk) 13:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Several businesses are listed under the relevant streets, so we can just expand on that. Kimberley's Palace would go in the Albert Square article, though I was thinking of suggesting that that article be merged here. –AnemoneProjectors– 15:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

yeah sorry i saw this one after i commented on the albert square/walford merge!!--MayhemMario (talk) 20:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Branizare THOUGH if we were to do all employes it would be hard tryign to remember who worked where and when....--MayhemMario (talk) 16:35, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think we should have a list of employees as it would severely clutter up the article. Think of all the businesses there have been... The Arches, Argee Bhajee (previously Giuseppe's, a pet shop, Kool for Kutz, By The Letter, Hills' Hardware), Beale's Plaice, Roxy's (formerly The Dagmar, The Meal Machine, Beale's Market, Sophisti-Kate's and Booty), the café, Fargo's, Gilly's Massage (Post Office), the launderette, the Minute Mart (First Til Last), the car lot (MANY MANY NAMES - Smith & Jameson Haulage, Pat Cabs, F & P Cabs, Deals On Wheels, Evans Executive Cars, Toucan Cars, Trueman's Motors, Wicks and Son, Getaway Motors, Pat Cars, and whatever it's been since - Branning and Son, Branning Brothers etc.), Snooker World (Henry's Wine Bar, Strokes, Pizza Marguerita, Ian Beale Finances), the bookies, the sari shop (Walford Videos, Vincent's Fish Bar, Romantic Relations). That obviously doesn't include the nightclub and the Vic as they have their own articles. And then there's the police station, the schools, the hospital... and obviously the new boxing club... phew! –AnemoneProjectors– 17:13, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

wow!--MayhemMario (talk) 17:24, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Plus Kim's and any other more recent ones I've missed. And there are several shops that have been seen like Barratt's Bargain Corner, etc. –AnemoneProjectors– 21:33, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Based on...

As far as I was aware, Walford was based on Woodford and Walthamstow. [1] shows that Walthamshow (E17) and South Woodford (E18) are next to each other in the real postcodes list - right at the end. There is no E19. Walford is supposedly E20. Chingford is E4 (nowhere near either Walthamstow or South Woodford) and Stratford is E15, closer, but not as close as South Woodford.

Yes, in the most basic sense, it's 'original research', but so is putting in Chingford and Stratford without a source. As I said, at least South Woodford makes sense, since it is a lot closer to E20 than either Chingford's or Stratford's postcode, and is also right next to Walthamstow. South Woodford Tube Station is also closer to Bromley-by-Bow Tube Station than Stratford, and Chingford doesn't even have a tube station named after it.

With all that considered, I'm adding South Woodford to the list, since it has no more or less evidence than Walthamstow/Stratford/Chingford's inclusion.

109.154.42.96 (talk) 16:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

We already know where the name Walford comes from - it was sourced at EastEnders#Setting, so I've put that in here. The Chingford and Woodford stuff is irrelevant. AnemoneProjectors 20:59, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

(I was also the previous editor/commentor: 109.154.42.96) The Chingford/Woodford stuff is not irrelevant. Indeed, even the source you yourself added ([2]) states "The originators of the programme, Julia Smith and Tony Holland came up with the name Walford. Tony was keen for the name to sound like Walthamstow, because of family connections. So they combined "Wal" with the suffix "ford" which is found throughout Essex." This also shows that the creators themselves based the show at least partly on Essex, too, thus meaning the statement that the general public perception is that it is more based on an Essex town is valid, too. There is no source which specifically picks out Stratford. Indeed, now that I've seen from that source that the 'ford' suffix is based on many areas in Essex, I am going to replace the 'Stratford' mention entirely (not with Woodford, but mere the 'Essex' statement. Please do not remove it, since as I've pointed out, it is drawing straight from the source which you yourself provided. - Andyroo316 (talk) 15:30, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

"This also shows that the creators themselves based the show at least partly on Essex" - that's entirely your own interpretation, so still constitutes original research. Therefore the unreferenced statement about the public's perception is still invalid. Your edit actually made the page read wrong because the creators are from Walthamstow and Stratford, not Walthamstow and and the suffix 'ford', or Stratford and South Woodford, depeding on how you read it. I don't know what the book EastEnders: 20 Years in Albert Square says, but it probably confirms it. I didn't check the source, I just copied from EastEnders#Setting because that's where the information already was. I am going to ask somebody who owns a copy of the book about it. AnemoneProjectors 16:19, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Walford College

Was this actually mentioned? –AnemoneProjectors– 17:17, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

yes i was looking through the lsit of eastenders characters 2008 and if you look at Julia Ellison you will see that Walford College is mentioned here!--MayhemMario (talk) 12:29, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh yes, I remember now. Thanks Mario. –AnemoneProjectors– 12:53, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Filming in Watford

I heard on Digital Spy that most of the filming that the actors and actresses do are in Watford. Is this true??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinamckintyre23 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

No, most of the filming takes place in the studio in Borehamwood. On-location filming has taken place in Watford on occasion. –AnemoneProjectors– 09:35, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Ian's restaurant

I think it's probably on Turpin Road. Wherever it is, it's what used to be the Moons' Emporium, so if added, that needs to be added first. Also, Ian plans to call it "Ian Beale @ Le Square", but since it's not open yet and is due to have a different name, I don't think it should be added yet. But unless we don't know for sure what street it's on, we can't really add it at all. –AnemoneProjectors– 16:45, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Where Ava and Dexter lived

Some of the storyline with Liam's gang in 2013 took place on an estate in Walford. Ava and Dexter lived there at the time, as did Kane from the gang and his father Mick. Does anyone know the name of the estate? It could/should be added here. –AnemoneProjectors– 10:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)