Talk:Waleran, Duke of Lower Lorraine

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Article name. Waleran II or III: verification check please

I do not have access to Loud and Schenk, but can someone check what sources we have for the II? As far as I can see Waleran is the third of that name in Arlon, and the first in every other title he is known for? I notice that the German article calls him III and Dutch calls him I (of Limburg).--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 09:59, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I should have realized the II is based on the assumption of Udo=Waleran, which would make him the second Waleran in Limburg. I would suggest it is easier to avoid giving this person a Limburg number though.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 10:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article name, Lorraine-> Lotharingia?

I think Lorraine is a confusing term for this period and not the one normally used by historians writing in English. Lotharingia would be better? For the time being WP is inconsistent, but I think most better articles also use Lotharingia. I'll post a few such messages on articles where I notice examples.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 07:01, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]