Talk:Waldorf Astoria New York/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jaguar (talk · contribs) 14:47, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Taking this review as requested and will complete this within a day ☯ Jaguar ☯ 14:47, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose is "clear and concise", without copyvios, or spelling and grammar errors:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Has an appropriate reference section:

   B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are provided if possible and are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Initial comments

Lead

• "in October 2014 it was announced that the Anbang Insurance Group of China" - just minor, but does such an article exist for this company?

Nope, but it arguably should.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:26, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• "The Royal Suite, named after the Duke and Duchess of Windsor" - who were they at the time?

Linked.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:30, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• Other than this the lead summarises the article well and is of appropriate length, so this meets the WP:LEAD requirements.

Name

• Should those names be in bold? Typically only phrases in the lead are emboldened

History

• "with Boldt's assistance, John Astor persuaded his mother to move uptown" - is this John Jacob Astor IV? I know that it's mentioned later in the next sentence, but are there two John Astor's?

Linked in first instance.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:41, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• "..."Astor's Folly". with the general perception of the palatial" - typo, capital 'W'

comma added.

• "and a fashion show of forty creations by Dior, Fath, Balmain" - Fath leads to disambiguation page

Done.

• "The slender central tower became known as the Waldorf Towers" - should be de-bolded

I think it needs to be emboldened as its sort of a building in its own right at the top of the hotel and is often referred to as that.

• "including the likes of General Douglas MacArthur..." - would cut "the likes of" to make it more neutral

Removed.

• "Soon after the opening of the hotel in 1931, hotelier Conrad Hilton" - this opening is in the later history section, shouldn't it be chronologically before?

It's there before I mention him fully buying it in 1972.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:49, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Architecture

• "It was modelled after the grand salon" - American Spelling, modeled

Changed.

• "with a handsome china collection including 48 Sevres plates" - I'd cut 'handsome' for neutrality

I think it perfectly describes them, they're not your average looking plates!

• "The hotel had its own railway platform" - past tense? It doesn't explain what happened to it?

Yes. It still exists I believe but as I say it isn't open to the public so "had" is correct really.

• "Such is the architectural and cultural heritage of the hotel that tours are conducted of the hotel for guests" - I've read it four times and I still can't understand this!

The rooms and its history is so notable that guests pay to be taken on tours of the hotel, is it really that unclear?

• "The fourth floor has the banquet and sales offices, and many of the suites including Barron, Vanderbilt, Windsor, Conrad, Vertes, Louis XVI and Cole Porter" - what are these names referring to? Are they the names of the suites?

Linked.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:06, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• "The fourth floor was where the notorious Sunday night card games were played" - what makes Sunday card games notorious? Sounds pretty peaceful to me LOL!

I think a great deal was gambled, millions regularly. The book says notorious.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:06, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

In popular culture

• "In Meg Cabot's novel Jinx" - Jinx leads to a disambiguation page

References

• Ref 179 redirects to the main page

Replaced with book ref.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

• The external link "The Waldorf Astoria - Host To The World", DVD-2008 redirects to the main page

Removed

On hold

This is overall a well written and comprehensive article, with most of the concerns I found to be relatively minor and technical. I'm sure it wouldn't take too much for this article to pass, but I'll put this on hold for the standard seven days until they can all be clarified. Thanks! ☯ Jaguar ☯ 19:19, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

@Jaguar: All addressed I think, thanks for the review!.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:12, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

No problem, and thanks for addressing them so fast! Long story short I think that this article now meets the GA criteria as it is already broad, well written and comprehensive as it is. ☯ Jaguar ☯ 22:39, 21 January 2015 (UTC)