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Date	Process	Result
August 5, 2023	Good article nominee	Listed
January 15, 2024	Good topic candidate	Not promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on September 1, 2023.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that today is independence day for Philly 57?

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GA Review

Passing, the article was nice and concise! Adog (Talk・Cont) 21:05, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Adog (talk · contribs) 07:19, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

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I should take on another station article! I should fully review this either by Saturday, August 5, or Sunday, August 6. Rolling through the other ones quickly because they are so good! Adog (Talk・Cont) 07:19, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Specific comment for Adog. There are a lot of commented-out code strings. This is because, on August 10, WPSG becomes an ATSC 3.0 station (like WNYO-TV already is). I've already staged the table formatting etc. and a bit of body text needed for that switch. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sammi Brie: Awesome, awesome, thank you for the heads up! Should get around to this hopefully today. Your other article I am reviewing is fabulous, should be posting a final all clear or minor comments within a couple hours. Adog (Talk・Cont) 15:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following are suggestions for corrections to our editor-at-large. If these suggestions for grammar/sentence structure are not appropriate or improper, please disregard:

Prose

Lead

Channel 57 was allocated for commercial use in Philadelphia at the start of the 1970s and was fought over by two groups who both sought to broadcast subscription television (STV) programming to paying customers in the metropolitan area. could be split into two sentences. "1970s. It was fought over ..."
... and subscription service utilizing programming from SelecTV. An "a" could be placed before "subscription".
... a premium regional sports and movies service seeking to reach potential subscribers in areas beyond cable coverage such as the city of Philadelphia. Comma before "such"?
WGBS-TV was then acquired by Paramount Stations Group and became an owned-and-operated station of the United Paramount Network (UPN) in 1995. might read better as Paramount Stations Group then acquired WGBS-TV and became an owned-and-operated United Paramount Network (UPN) station in 1995.

History

WWSG-TV: The STV years

Vue-Metrics specified use of the Phonevision system by Zenith Electronics ... "the" before "use"?
... whose first service in Los Angeles had launched that March, and use equipment developed by one of ON TV's owners, Oak Industries. Omit comma before "and"?
- Not a CinS issue—that's an appositive.
His decision was upheld by the commission in October 1978. might read better as The commission upheld his decision in October 1978.
... with the company opting to begin the process of erecting facilities in the Manayunk area in spite of Vue-Metrics ... "in spite of" to "despite"?
With FNN on air, the station aired financial programming and talk shows from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m., when ... Remove comma after p.m.?

WGBS-TV: The Grant years

When Grant inquired as to who had the rights to air Villanova men's basketball ... "as to" may be omitted.
Channel 48 at the time was in the comparative hearing stage for ... "at the time" commas before and after or omit?
In July 1986, WTGI-TV launched from Wilmington, Delaware, but its original programming plan was eclipsed by channel 57's relaunch, and the station switched to a home shopping and later multicultural format. might read better as In July 1986, WTGI-TV launched from Wilmington, Delaware, but channel 57's relaunch eclipsed its original programming plan, and the station switched to a home shopping and later multicultural format.

Attempted sale to Fox (1993–1994)

News Corp's chairman, Rupert Murdoch, owned 76 percent of THC's stock in his own name ... omit "own"?
... he had become an American citizen in 1985 so he could buy U.S. television stations. might read better as he became an American citizen in 1985 to buy U.S. television stations.
- Keeping both of these intact.
It was not until July 1995, when Fox won approval to buy television stations in Boston, Denver, and Memphis, Tennessee, that the foreign-ownership issue was solved ... "solved" to "resolved"? Maybe there is not much of a difference.

WPSG: Sale to Paramount and UPN affiliation (1994–2006)

Fox also entered into the bidding for WCAU, just in case New World's offer either fell through or in case New World chose to affiliate WCAU with NBC. could possibly read as Fox also entered into bidding for WCAU, just in case New World's offer fell through or New World chose to affiliate WCAU with NBC.
Operational responsibility for WNPA in Pittsburgh was also moved to CBS-owned KDKA-TV in that city. might read better as CBS-owned KDKA-TV in Pittsburgh had taken on the operational responsibility for WNPA in that city.

Return to independence (2023)

... with its channels being hosted in ATSC 1.0 form among Philadelphia's other stations. omit "being"?

Other comments or issues

The article looks awesome with a skim through the first time! I have some comments above and below. I will read through it one more time and do the spot checks on the second round. No doubt this article is on its way! Adog (Talk・Cont) 18:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:DUPLINK "Comcast SportsNet" in "The CW Philly 57 (2006–2023)". Original shows up in "WPSG: Sale to Paramount and UPN affiliation (1994–2006)".
Should the quotation starting with "All affiliates of Fox ..." be in double quotes (quoting the quote, using a double and a single quote inside)?

In the lead: ... from the late 1990s to the late 2000s, Flyers, Philadelphia 76ers basketball, and Philadelphia Phillies baseball games were seen on channel 57. "seen" to "broadcasted" or "aired"?
In history for "WWSG-TV": The initial decision was not an immediate green light to start building consider adding "given" before "an"?
Same section: ... there were fewer than 50 installed households, all of them station employees. consider adding "belonging to" before "station"?
Possibly merge the sentence starting with "On December 4, 2019, CBS ..." in "The CW Philly 57 (2006–2023)" to the previous paragraph since it has another 2019 factoid and it won't be by itself.
I did find one reference: 80. Retrieval date? Also consider putting American City Business Journals as the publisher for other PBJ refs.

@Sammi Brie: That is all from me. Let me know if there is anything you would like for me to look at. Another good read. I cannot comprehend how many hands a single station can go throughout its lifetime. Nor the parts and deals it has to make for broadcasting certain events such as sports. This was a blast from my past, rescanning a TV. I have not heard of that in a couple of years. We do not have cable anymore, so that is probably why. Never been to Phili, but this makes me appreciate the work put into local stations.

Out of GAN comment: I did not get to address your comment after I closed Talk:WNYO-TV/GA1. Yes! Awesome! Keep it up! You are doing some important work! Never would I thought about a local station in-depth, but after seeing your contributions, they are quite methodically crafted and piqued my interest! Unfortunately, roller coasters are kinda the same in terms of quality. However, roller coasters are not nearly as essential as local providers of news and entertainment (throwback to COVID and shutdowns). I might claim those other two reviews depending on how much time I have this coming week and if I get a new job. :) Adog (Talk・Cont) 20:07, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Adog: I just did WFTV (not yet at GAN). That case makes every other article I've done feel way less tortuous! But all the changes that I want to do have been done here (a few didn't make sense to me). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:51, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sammi Brie: No problemo! Sounds good. I will look into it tomorrow. Passing. Adog (Talk・Cont) 21:05, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Verifiability

The article cites a list of reliable sources that come from a variety of origins. The list is properly formatted and I did not see any outstanding issues. Earwig does not pick up anything besides quotations. Adog (Talk・Cont) 18:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Prose + broadness + focus

The article has a good and well-written format with only minor grammatical and structural changes up to the editor. The article complies with a proper manual of style. The article is broad in scope and has a focused narrative. I did not find any issues with original research. The article is neutral in tone. Adog (Talk・Cont) 20:09, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Images + stability

The article is illustrated by images that are relevant, and the paperwork is good. The article is stable. The recent history displays proper reverts either because of policy errors, vandalism, or unexplained edits. Adog (Talk・Cont) 18:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 13:48, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that today is independence day for Philly 57? Source: https://deadline.com/2023/05/cbs-stations-eight-drop-cw-go-independent-this-fall-1235357388/
- ALT1: ... that the first broadcasts of a Philadelphia TV station could only be seen in fewer than 50 households? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/119209365/part-fee-part-free-tv-station-takes-to/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Iribe Center
- Comment: ALT0 must run September 1

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 21:29, 5 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/WPSG; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Article is long enough and recently improved to GA, no obvious copyvio concerns. I'm a little bit concerned about the hook because of WP:CRYSTAL; it's always possible the CW could change their mind at the last minute, or local government could intervene and block it. Also, the specific date of September 1 is not mentioned anywhere in the article, probably for the same reason. Meanwhile, ALT1 just really doesn't grab me as "hooky" - aren't there a lot of local TV stations all over the US with very little viewership? Just wondering what we can do about ALT0 for the mo. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 09:57, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- @Ritchie333: Very unlikely. The CW was sold to Nexstar Media Group. As part of that deal, eight CBS-owned stations including this one left the network. In Philadelphia, Nexstar owns a station which will take on the network. I should also have linked [1]. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:52, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'm going to pass ALT0 as "AGF", not for the usual reasons, but I assume you have done far more research in this article than I have and that the handover is scheduled and fully intended to happen. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 11:16, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion was undone because we went from one set per day to two, and the special occasion date won't be available in prep for a few days. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:43, 23 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]