Talk:Vyatsky

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Disambiguation page or Set index article

On 1 December 2008, editor Ezhiki removed the disambiguation project info and said as an edit summary "a set, not a dab". Ezhiki also said in an edit summary on the main page that the list on the Vyatsky page was reclassed as a set, and removed the Template:geodis . While I agree that in some sense a group of villages in Russia that share a name constitute a "set", I do not believe that such a grouping is appropriate, of even possible, for a set index article. I doubt that there has been anything written about the group of villages that share the name Vyatsky. On the other hand, individual articles, however-so-short, on the individual villages would be possible. Other than Ezhiki, does anyone think that this page has potential as anything other than a disambiguation page? I can understand a ship article where all of the ships named Enterprise share more than just the name, or a Signal Mountain article where they share more than just a name, namely being used as a signal point. However, here, I see no extra ordinary connection that would convert this page to a "set index article". --Bejnar (talk) 21:08, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Bejnar! As per WP:SETINDEX, a set index article is "a list article about a set of items of a specific type that share the same (or similar) name". The items on the Vyatsky page are all inhabited localities in Russia, sharing the same name, hence the page meets the definition. Note that WP:SETINDEX does not call for the set indices to meet any additional requirements beyond these two. The implementation of the set indices (including further refinement of their definition) is up to the WikiProjects under scope of which these sets fall. WP:RUSSIA's preference is to treat pages containing lists of localities sharing the same name as sets, because the project's flow benefits from having orphaned red-linked items on such pages—something MOSDAB explicitly prohibits. Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks to me like we need to make a geographical exception to MOSDAB where the orpahned red ink entry appears in the GNIS. --Bejnar (talk) 04:50, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GNIS is not an ultimate source, though. Some of the places in Russia are absent from it (yet are still verifiable with other sources). Thus, just making an exception for red links on geodis pages may not be sufficient; it may also be necessary to allow (or, even better, to mandate) that all red links on geodis pages be sourced. Like I said before, if this proposal is submitted for community's consideration, I will gladly support it, but until then I'm going to stick with the SIA approach. It's not like our readers are going to notice the difference. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 16:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]