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The currently Romani language edition of Wikipedia, although it has the code of the Vlax dialect, in fact it is a generic Romani edition. Desiphral 08:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cyrillic Orthography

Here's a link to a short textbook that uses a Cyrillic orthography for Kalderash, giving a citation for that fact in the main article -- I myself don't know how to remove the tag. http://adcmemorial.org/storagef/123/63539ccba4c527b676ddc96222777d96.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.71.120 (talk) 20:51, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No official status in Romania

This so called "Vlax Romani" language doesn't have any official status in Romania yet it is listed as such with no source in this article's "Official Status" box.

Evidence can be found here: http://www.dri.gov.ro/documents/Multilingvism%20si%20limbi%20minoritare%20in%20Romania.pdf Page 56 and 57 - document in Romanian listing minority languages spoken on the territory of Romania from the Interethnic Relations Department of the Romanian Government website.

In consequence, Romania should be removed from the Official Status list of countries officially recognising it as an minority language.

In fact the term Vlax has no reputable source attributed, being a term pretty much invented extremely recently by Prof. Ian Hancock. The source attributed for the sentence "Vlax Romani can also be referred to as an independent language", http://www.ethnologue.com/show_language.asp?code=rmy , says that Vlax, Romani is a language of Romania, which by all means it is isn't like I was showing previously, Romani having nothing to do with Romania per se other than a coincidence in naming and sound of the word itself. I propose a major edit/removal of this article for being extremely inaccurate. --Nmgabriel (talk) 17:05, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Prof. Ian Hancock as author of an ethnologue entry?!?

There is no evidence whatsoever provided to claim that Prof. Hancock is the author of the Ethnologue.com entry for Vlax Romani. If no evidence is provided, I will revert back to the original version. --Kuaichik (talk) 17:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've reverted it back. --Kuaichik (talk) 21:54, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's written in the description section from that link, read carefully next time Adrianzax (talk) 12:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. The Ethnologue entry merely cites Prof. Hancock's estimate for the population of speakers of Vlax Romani in Colombia and for the population of speakers worldwide. --Kuaichik (talk) 02:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vlax Romani in Bosnia

There is no chance that 10% of the population speaks it. There could be about 1%-2% of Roma people, but not much more. Also, by looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romany_language#Dialects, it is clear that Vlax Romani originated in Romania, and it is therefore logical that Romania should have greatest number of speakers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.99.254.253 (talk) 13:47, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Source of additional information: Kalderash Romani dictionary

Please consider expanding this article using information from my publishing house's recently released "Romani Dictionary: Kalderash - English" ( http://www.magoriabooks.com/books/rodikalen/ ). It is written by "Learn Romani" (a Kalderash-focused self-teaching book) author Ronald Lee.

Online excerpts are available here: http://www.romanidictionary.com/books/rodikalen/

--Magoriabooks (talk) 06:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What is the origin of the word "vlax"?

Vlax = Voice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigshotnews (talk • contribs) 22:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to derive from 'Vlach'. See here. RashersTierney (talk) 23:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Walch (Valach / Valah as the Slave people took it for granted from German people) is nothing else than "Roman"! (Period!) Who on Earth could even believe than "Rroma" or "Romani" has anything to do with Caesar, Augustus, Trajan, or even Nero? The "Rroma or Roma" tribes came from India about 900 years ago (Tzigan=cis Ganges(Latin)=beyond Ganges). Do to their oppression in their homeland, they hardly and constantly tried to hide their own origin over the centuries. There is a big confusion (not even harmless) between Romania and "Roma" or "Romani". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.162.68.32 (talk) 21:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Vlax" is an artificial created word

"Vlax" doesn't exist in any language. In my opinion is an "artificial" word created in order to produce even more confusion between Romanians, which are an european Volk and "Gipsies" which are an asiatic, indian minority living in Europe. Maybe this is the reason why "Vlax" as word was created. Phonetically "Vlax" is very close to "Vlach" and "Vlach" is a denomination of Romanians, sometimes also of Italians. "Romani" is also the plural of "Roman", hence "Romani" means either citizens of Rom or Romans or Romanians. It is hard, then, to believe that everything is only a "harmless phonetical coincidence". What is it then? A tentative of "nation building" middle in Europe? --Monterex (talk) 11:09, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!!! Is there any serious ethnologist able to answer this questions: Is "Romani" an endonym? If not, then it is an exonym, a name given from outside! As I know "Romani" doesn't exist in a "gipsy" language. Only "Romanes" or "Domanes" exists, denominating a language but not an ethnical group. Second question: Who created the word "Vlax" and why?

Is it a coincidence that both words denominate Romanians, which are to 100% an European population and the majority population of Romania? I am an ethnical Romanian and I believe that I have the right to ethnical identity like every other population on Earth: When a japanse guy says "I am a Japanese" nobody understands that he is a Chinese or Zulu. Therefore I need a serious linguist able to answer the questions above.Thank you!--Monterex (talk) 19:43, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To add to article

To add to the opening paragraph of this article (in order to make it properly encyclopedic): the pronunciation of the word "Vlax." 173.88.246.138 (talk) 22:46, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cyrillic script source

The source used for the statement that Vlax Romani is also written in Cyrillic does not hold to verification. The word "Cyrillic" appears once, describing a single character imported in the language. "Soviet Union" or derivatives do not seem to appear. Russia appears twice, in other contexts. That is not to say the statement is untrue, it just needs a real source.--Strainu (talk) 18:59, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]