Talk:Viscount Strangford

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Extra generations

Some early sources list two extra generations after either the second or third Viscount, so that later ones are number two higher. It looks like a single Thomas and Philip have each been duplicated. The augmented list is as follows (each Viscount is the father of his successor):

Thomas, d.1635; m. Barbara Sydney
Philip m.1630 Lady Isabella Sydney, his first cousin, daughter of Robert Sidney
Thomas d.1708 at Sturry Court near Canterbury
Philip d.1713 m. Mary, daughter of George Porter
Endymion d.1724; m. Elizabeth le Larget
Philip (1715–1787)
Lionel (1753–1801)
Percy (1780–1855)

The sources are

Brooke, Fulke Greville (1816). Lord Brook's Life of Sir Philip Sidney. Johnson and Warwick. p. 18. Retrieved 18 June 2017.
Biographical Peerage of Ireland. Nichols. 1817. p. 198.
Debrett, John (1822). The Peerage of the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Ireland. p. 1087. Retrieved 18 June 2017.

The Philip Smythe, 2nd Viscount Strangford article says he married Isabella Sydney and then Mary Porter, so that is part of the confusion. MAybe 1630 was when the first Thomas married Barbara Sydney? Where the 1708 date came from I can't see. A letter to The Gentleman's Magazine (December 1830 p.487) says [emphasis added]:

Sir John Smythe, the eldest son of Customer Smythe, married Elizabeth, daughter and heir of John Fineux, Esq. son of Chief Justice Fineux, of Heme, in Kent, and dying 20th Nov. 1608, left issue an only son, Thomas, 1st Viscount Strangford, who married Lady Barbara Sydney, 7th daughter of Robert 1st Earl of Leicester, whence the present Viscount Strangford derives the baptismal name of Sydney; and as all the descendants of that match have lately been accurately traced, it is certain that no other male descendant exists at this moment than Lord Strangford and his sons.

So maybe it was shortly before 1830 that the confusion was resolved? jnestorius^(talk) 18:04, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]