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Stoke in the Midlands, not the north

"West Midlands services are" section should include Stoke-on-Trent, which is in the West Midlands, and is not in the north.

Past Fleet

You really ought to do a table showing their past fleet... Pdiddyjr (talk) 17:30, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Should the Pretendolino set be merged in with the other Mk3s? A short comment to the effect that one set was hired after Grayrigg, painted to match the Pendolino sets and was returned to the leasing company in October 2014 should suffice.Cjmillsnun (talk) 21:49, 17 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Did the 220s ever run on West Coast services, or only XC? If not, should 220 be removed from the 'past fleet' table, as this article is specifically about West Coast? ClivePIA (talk) 20:26, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Celebrity Endorsement of Virgin Trains campaign

Hmmm.

Perhaps it needs to be included how many of the VT campaign celebrity supporters are actually friends of Branson, or employed by Virgin Trains.

eg Mo Farah is currently paid to be in a Virgin advertising campaign. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.168.57.79 (talk) 07:05, 25 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In my opinion, we should only include that if a key member to the dispute pointed that out. If we put it in it could make the article seem critical of Virgin and this would be against the WP:NPOV policy. Oddbodz (talk) 20:34, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New service vector diagram

@JaJaWa:, I do like the service diagram Tgtrains has created (I said the old one was better but after having another look at it, I do prefer the new one now). However, the problem I have with it is that some parts of the diagram show incorrect information. Here are the ones I have found:

There are 3 London Midland trains per hour running from London Euston to Birmingham New Street; the diagram shows only one of them.
There is no service running between Euston and Northampton only; the service shown on the map runs all the way to Birmingham New Street.
Wembley Central, Canley, Berkswell, Lea Hall, Stechford and Adderley Park stations are completely missed out.
Since we're including London Midland services to/from Tring and Milton Keynes Central, I think the Southern service from East Croydon should also be included (at least partly).
Virgin Trains services to Scotland via Birmingham stop at Milton Keynes Central, not Watford Junction. Also, only one Birmingham train stops at Watford Junction (not 2).
~~First~~ TransPennine Express no longer runs via Bolton (even in the peaks); there is no point in including this route on the diagram.
Also, TransPennine Express services don't actually alternate between Oxenholme Lake District and Penrith North Lakes; these stations are served irregularly, with some trains calling at both stations, some calling at just one, and a few calling at neither of these. Lockerbie station has a similar irregular service. (Virgin Trains services, however, do alternate.)

As I said, I do like the new vector map. However, I would rather have a diagram that's less detailed and less aesthetic but correct, than one that looks nicer and is more detailed but has some erroneous content. For now, I am going to undo the revision back to the one with the old diagram, but if someone makes a corrected version of the new diagram, I will happily accept it. Mvpo666 (talk) 18:34, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I should probably tag @Tgtrains: in this discussion as well, since it's his diagram. Mvpo666 (talk) 18:35, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I've forwarded your comments to @Sameboat: too. JaJaWa |say hello 18:40, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments, but I stopped correcting the vector diagram because the concept is so convoluted but no one helps visualize the correction they want. If you don't know how to handle vector graphic, you can download its PNG version and make correction in MSpaint or GIMP for us to reference. Thank you. -- Sameboat - 同舟 (talk · contri.) 21:39, 3 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

please add a reliable scorce to future fleet

it is true that class 91s are going to virgin but it has only been announced on railways illustrated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luisanderson961 (talk • contribs) 08:49, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Luisanderson961: Before adding information concerning future events to the article, please consider that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. You also need to satisfy the policy on verifiability. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]