Talk:Vila Velha

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Second Vila Velha?

The Salvador, Brazil, page gives

In 1534, Francisco Pereira Coutinho founded a town near Barra borough, called Vila Velha, Portuguese for "Old Village."<ref>[http://isbor2011.com/conteudo/show/id/11]</ref>

which doesn't seem like the most reliable source, but at the same time may show there was a separate settlement. Anyone know anything more? — LlywelynII 16:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Old town

Vila Velha doesnt mean Old Village, only in automatic internet translations. It means Old Town. --Pedro (talk) 15:26, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, and will edit the article accordingly.

Could someone please give the nickname "The Land of Green Shins" in the original Portuguese, and perhaps an explanation.Davidships (talk) 14:52, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Portuguese article is quite good, it has no direct reference to that nickname. But people from the city are nicknamed the "Green cinnamons" or "Green shinbone" canela = cinnamon or shinbone verde = green. well... often cinnamon and shinbone are easily told apart within a context (text or conversation)... in this we must trust the translator. The article offers no explanation to this weird nickname.-Pedro (talk) 22:30, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

this well-explained article: [1] with reference to a book states that the nickname is actually shinbone and it is quite ancient. From 1535 when a noble Vasco Fernandes Coutinho sailed there to take possession of the captaincy that he got from the king. And comes from three Portuguese seamen that when arriving to the local beach, pulled their trousers up, in order to moor the caravel. And a type of green algae stuck to their legs below the knee, the "canela" (refering to that part of the leg, not the bone itself). Sometime later, the captain of the ship, Vasco Fernandes Coutinho, jocosely said: "And the Green-shins, are they on board in their positions?", the name stuck to the population of the town.--Pedro (talk) 22:56, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Pedro - I've added an explanation.Davidships (talk) 02:16, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

np. :) --Pedro (talk) 23:53, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No longer the biggest in ES

One part of this article states that Vila Velha is the largest city in Espírito Santo. That used to be true, but it’s no longer true. In recent years, Serra has overtaken it. The two Wikipedia articles themselves can verify this: this article’s table in the intro lists Vila Velha’s population as 501K (the last three digits are irrelevant) while the analogous table on the Serra article lists Serra’s population as 527K. As such, this article needs to be edited to remove the claim that Vila Velha is the biggest city in ES. It isn’t.

Thegoldenconciseencyclopediaofmammals (talk) 04:07, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]