Talk:Victoria Quay, Fremantle

Caption for 1894 plan is too long

The caption for the 1894 plan is far too long. I tried to punctuate in meaningfully, but it's still too hard to parse. If it were in the body text, I'd be using bullet points not one long sentence. I did contemplate just deleting the "notable features" sentence, but that might be just a bit too bold. Any other suggestions? Mitch Ames (talk) 13:08, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Yeah its a bit cludgy, same issue theres too many points of interest to highlight in the one use. Think maybe just remove but the image looses too much value. Maybe just pick whats the most significant point to highlight, there are more maps of freo to come earliest 1833 & 1834 Gnangarra 15:02, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

If the image "loses to much value" when you remove the caption, then it is not a very good image. Perhaps one should

1. edit the image to create a copy with points of interest marked (possibly just by numbers - see 3 below) on the image
2. put the image - full size - into the article
3. add descriptive text referencing the points marked on the image

Ie if the caption text is valuable (which I'm not disputing) move it into the article's main text. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:57, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: Moved Victoria Quay, Australia to Victoria Quay, Fremantle and moved Victoria Quay (Disambiguation) to Victoria Quay. Gnangarra 07:58, 15 May 2013 (UTC) Gnangarra 07:58, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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Victoria Quay, Australia → Victoria Quay – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Victoria Quay in Fremantle is the primary topic, request move over redirect which points to a disambiguation page Gnangarra 00:57, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Support, per nom. Primary with respect to usage and long-term significance. - Evad37 (talk) 01:29, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Long-term significance: Construction of Victoria Quay in Fremantle began in 1892, and completed in 1897. It has over 100 years of history, and been on the interim register of heritage places since 1999. The Scottish Victoria Quay was constructed between 1993 and 1996. (refs in articles) The Victoria Quay in Dublin is, it seems, not notable enough to have its own article.
  • Usage: Note that the page views are not the only statistic to determine primary usage. Google searches (with &pws=0 to remove personal search bias) shows: "About 53,100 results" for "Victoria Quay" Western Australia, "About 65,200 results" for "Victoria Quay" Scotland, and "About 44,000 results" for "Victoria Quay" Dublin. None seem to be "more likely than all the other topics combined—to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term", per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC - Evad37 (talk) 05:42, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
• Support sats 02:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose - this is the Scottish Wikipedia not the Australian Wikipedia. (cur | prev) 23:57, 3 February 2013‎ Gnangarra (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (5,233 bytes) (0)‎ . . (Gnangarra moved page Victoria Quay, Fremantle to Victoria Quay: primary topic) (undo) (cur | prev) 23:56, 3 February 2013‎ Gnangarra (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (249 bytes) (0)‎ . . (Gnangarra moved page Victoria Quay to Victoria Quay (disambiguation) without leaving a redirect: primary topic) (undo) ... 1 person looked at the Aussie quay in March zillions are looking at the Scottish building. What's going on? In ictu oculi (talk) 02:46, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose - I note that neither the nominator nor his supporters has made the slightest attempt to actually prove that the Australian one is the primary topic. --Mais oui! (talk) 04:08, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
• Opppose per Mais oui, and move the disambiguation page to the base location -- 65.94.76.126 (talk) 04:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

• Surprise, surprise: no notifications have been left to warn editors of the other affected articles. --Mais oui! (talk) 04:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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