Talk:Victor Oreskovich/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Gonzo fan2007 (talk · contribs) 01:15, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

• I will review this article this weekend. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:15, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Lead

• "The following off-season, he was traded to the Canucks. Oreskovich joined the team in 2011 on their run to the Stanley Cup Finals, where they lost to the Boston Bruins." - maybe combine to "The following off-season, he was traded to the Canucks, joining the team in 2011 on their run to the Stanley Cup Finals, where they lost to the Boston Bruins."
• "Oreskovich retired from hockey in 2012, and returned to university in 2015, completing a degree Master of Business Administration, and joined the Royal Bank of Canada." - there is a grammatical error in the "degree Master of" part, but this may also read better split into two sentences. Maybe after "2015" add a period and start the next sentence with "He completed..." « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Fixed all these. Kaiser matias (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Kaiser matias Regarding the second bullet point, what is your opinion about splitting the sentence into two? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:45, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

A simple oversight on my part. Done now. Kaiser matias (talk) 22:01, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Playing career

• "Oreskovich played minor hockey with the Oakville Rangers of the OMHA SCTA League, winning two provincial rep championships with the club." - it would be good to include a year in this sentence, so the reader has a grasp of the timeframe the career starts at.
• "Following minor, Oreskovich was drafted in the 6th round" - maybe this is a common way of saying this in hockey, but it sounds funny to me. Like it needs another word: "Following minor hockey" or something similar.
• "Oreskovich attended the Avalanche's training camp for the 2006–07," - add "season" at the end
• "and was signed a two-year contract with the Panthers on October 7, 2009." - missing "to" after signed
• "called up to the NHL, making his NHL debut" - I would remove the second "NHL" unless you are really trying to express this is his "NHL" debut and not just his Avalanche debut.
• "Oreskovich remained with the Canucks for the entire 2011 playoffs, dressing for 19 games, not recording any points, as the Canucks lost in the Stanley Cup Finals to the Boston Bruins." - recommend splitting into two sentences: "...entire 2011 playoffs. He dressed for 19 games in the playoffs but did not record any points, as the Canucks..."
• Is there an sources that sums up his career or announces his retirement? It would be nice to end the Career section with how it ended. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 13:39, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Done everything here. Kaiser matias (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Personal life

• Could Notre Dame Catholic School (Ontario) be notable enough that it could be an article someday? If so, a red link would be fine.

Evidently it already exists: Notre Dame College School. Kaiser matias (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

• "before dropping out to join the major junior ranks." - what are the "major junior ranks" Is it hockey-related?
• "He later re-enrolled at University of Notre Dame during his two-year hiatus from his hockey career, to complete his finance degree." - based on this sentence, I am guessing "major junior ranks" is hockey-related? It would help to explain this a little, because the article jumps from him in high school to him suddenly having a hockey career. Also, maybe change "to complete" to "where he completed" « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Done everything here. Kaiser matias (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Career statistics

• Nice looking tables.
• Would you use the {{Abbr}} template for the abbreviations in the header. It makes it easier for someone to understand what the abbreviation is without having to click a link. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Regarding using abbreviations, the standard for ice hockey stats has been to leave links in, so without going through and changing everything, I'm a little reluctant to do so. Kaiser matias (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Images

• File:Victor Oreskovich Wolves.jpg is freely licensed and properly tagged.
• File:Avalanche Weiman bw game.jpg is freely licensed and properly tagged. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

References

• Refs 4 and 9 don't need italics for the publisher fields.
• Just for consistency, you can link Colorado Avalanche in reference 6.
• Ref 12, the author isn't NHL.com. Either use the publisher field or the website field, whichever matches the rest of the article.
• Ref 14, replace the author field with |agency=Canadian press
• Ref 17, you can link Vancouver Canucks
• Ref 19, you can link Vancouver Sun « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:20, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Regarding the italics for the publishers, it happens when using the "work" field in the template, as suggested at Template:Cite news. Other than that all dealt with. Kaiser matias (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Overall

• I guess I don't feel strongly about it, but it is kind of weird to have his professional career come before his bio details about his birth. In most sports bios I work with, you usually see sections titled "Early life" -> "Career" - > "Personal" (sometimes "Later life"). What do you think about moving the pre-career info to a new section titled "Early life"? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
• Per WP:DUPLINK, make sure there aren't any duplicate links in the body of the article. I noticed Notre Dame Fighting Irish, Oakville, Ontario, and college hockey. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:20, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Great, didn't expect a review so quickly. I will note that after I added the article to GAC I reviewed citations, and #15 remains a deadlink. I'm working on figuring out how to best deal with it though. Kaiser matias (talk) 01:23, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

No problem. I added my initial comments. Will probably wrap-up tomorrow. No big rush needed on your part though. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:32, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Believe I've addressed everything here, including the missing citation noted above here. Kaiser matias (talk) 18:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Awesome, looks good! Nice work. Passed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:16, 19 September 2018 (UTC)