Talk:Ventricular hypertrophy

Improvements made on 5 January 2008

Added references to the article, whoever started it did not place them in. Tidied up the article layout a bit and rewrote ambiguous sentences. CycloneNimrod (talk) 17:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Review for possibility of B class 6 May 2008

This article is a good start and I can see that a lot of work has gone into it - putting difficult medical terms into language for the general user and seeking sources for verification.

It will need a fair bit more work to reach B class. Here are some suggestions for improvement:

• The structure of the article could be made to resemble the Wikipedia Manual Of Style more closely by approximating the Diseases/disorders/syndromes headings. I would suggest
  • Lead - introduction and a summary of the article
  • Characteristics - signs and symptoms, investigations (see references)
  • Causes
    • Physiological
    • Pathological - diseases which cause enlargement
  • Some people would put investigations in with a Diagnosis heading - how to tell between the physiological and pathological
  • Significance - why doctors want to know if the heart is enlarged

And you already have the last 3

• • References
  • See Also
  • External Links
• There should be a link to right ventricular hypertrophy as well as the link to LVH. Other things that deserve a mention are Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy and Aortic valve stenosis.

• Quite possibly there should be a discussion of the difference between hypertrophy (as athletes get, or with aortic stenosis) where the muscle mass increases and ventricular dilation (as with aortic insufficiency) where there no more muscle than in the undilated heart but that the ventricle is bigger. This should either be addressed here or in the LVH page (and possible on the RVH page too, then). It might be better here one time, rather than repeated on the two other pages.

• The quality of the references could be improved. I have done a bit of research on the web and come up with some improved references you could read through and add. Sorry for the messy links here - but this is what I came up with at short notice with a google search:
  • Jules Constant's book "Essentials of Bedside Cardiology" http://books.google.com.au/books?id=nezE1Wmb_9wC&pg=PA103&lpg=PA103&dq=ventricular+hypertrophy+cardiology&source=web&ots=xUhHK9lEPx&sig=RVNcO7UuTjPoi0P-fxxRGE_BAhg&hl=en#PPA103,M1 - particularly have a look from pg 103 at the clinical signs of ventricular hypertrophy, left and right, also deals nicely with concentric vs eccentric hypertrophy
  • Paul Thompson's book "Exercise and Sports Cardiology" http://books.google.com.au/books?id=VyIgc1udcwUC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=ventricular+hypertrophy+cardiology&source=web&ots=rT2i6kEjUZ&sig=KEOi0WaK5y0Ghi6z1xFTcYq1TnY&hl=en - discusses LVH and RVH in Athletes (pp 32-40) and then separately LVH (pp 44-48), RVH (pp 50-59), Athlete's heart vs cardiac disease (pp 59-64) and it talks about ECGs in diagnosing hypertrophy.
  • Wong N, Black H, Gardin J "Preventative Cardiology" http://books.google.com.au/books?id=VyIgc1udcwUC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=ventricular+hypertrophy+cardiology&source=web&ots=rT2i6kEjUZ&sig=KEOi0WaK5y0Ghi6z1xFTcYq1TnY&hl=en - which discusses ECHOcardiography (ultrasound) to diagnose hypertrophy, particularly LVH, with discussion on increased LV mass being related to increased risk of Ischaemic heart disease - start at pg 80
  • Eagle K, Baliga R "Practical Cardiology" http://books.google.com.au/books?id=j-6VmgMQ6BkC&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=ventricular+hypertrophy+cardiology&source=web&ots=yW2985yL0y&sig=QqLfL_FJB9-Q4ObYXjT-sdZWbOI&hl=en - discusses treatment of LVH (pp 242-245) and HOCM (pp 245-258) ... HOCM vs Athletes heart, HOCM vs Aortic stenosis
  • British Journal of Cardiology article on Aortic Stenosis and LVH http://www.bjcardio.co.uk/pdf/831/Vol10_Num3_May-June_2003_p214-216.pdf is also worthwhile

Phew! Sorry I got so long winded! I'm a little busy myself at present, but I'd be happy to help (a little at a time) if you like. I hope this review has been helpful for you.

Orinoco-w (talk) 11:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Wall thickness source?

I found this page looking for normal LV wall thickness, but there is no source for the 1.1cm stated as normal for the average adult. Further searching suggests this is at the high end, or even 'mildly abnormal', and not likely to be a correct average value.

• http://www.echopedia.org/index.php/Normal_Values
• http://www.echocardiographer.org/Reference%20Values.html

159.92.151.129 (talk) 12:21, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

wall thickness is also vague as it differs significantly between systole and diastole. There are also some differences in measurement between CMR and Trans thoracic echo, though concordance between CMR and trans esophageal echo is high. Corduroy pillows making headlines (talk) 22:53, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

clarification for mechanism section

This section is by and large too technical, I think it could benefit from clarification of the given formulae — Preceding unsigned comment added by Corduroy pillows making headlines (talk • contribs) 17:08, 4 July 2017 (UTC)