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Competition

What is missing in this account of Vegetarian Times is the rise of its competitors, who gave them a great deal of loyalty challenge among practicing vegetarians, and the rise of veganism as a very distinct movement that seized animal rights sentiments and purity tendencies. I think historically of Scott Smith's Vegetarian World. The Vegetarian Times publication has responded with a distinct and easily accessible all-vegan interest section in its online version at VegetarianTimes.com^[1], perhaps under the leadership of Elizabeth Turner.^[2]

When and how did this take place? When did AIM (Active Interest Media) take over VT?^[3] Elizabeth Turner had worked as Editor for competitor Natural Health before coming to Vegetarian Times.

Such all-vegan competitors include VegNews of California and the critically far more sophisticated Vegetarian Journal^[4] published by the Vegetarian Resource Group in Baltimore, Maryland, and vegetarian competitors were numerous, sophisticated, and glossy. Also, the rise of digital media and online publishing changed the possible fiscal landscape for in-print publishing.

Also, is a separate stub article on Paul Obis warranted? I would think that there is more justification for additional articles about Vegetarian Journal and Vegetarian Resource Group (VRG) (which should have its own article, I think), which relies heavily upon vegan registered dietitians and medical doctors, and uses sophisticated observation of businesses working in vegetarian and vegan markets.

Elizabeth Turner seems to be a more interesting character at some point, but Paul Obis led a charge that may not previously have found a mouthpiece in modern America.

I am thinking that a separate, distinct article should be developed around the history of vegetarian publications, first in America, and then (initially in a more general article) for those publications around the world, often mentioned in Vegetarian Times and in publications mentioned by IVU, the International Vegetarian Union. We should look at the articles:

Vegetarianism by country
Veganism § Demographics

Owler suggests several competitors in the vegetarian lifestyle publishing space.^[5]

MaynardClark (talk) 14:38, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Updates needed

Elizabeth Turner (who began in 2007 as Editor-In-Chief but left in 2015) has moved on to Forks Over Knives, an all-vegan outreach, publication, and production operation associated with T. Colin Campbell of Cornell University and Dr. Caldwell Esselstyn of The Cleveland Clinic.^[6] MaynardClark (talk) 14:38, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Online accessibility

How much of Vegetarian Times is currently available online for free? Is it all available at http://VegetarianTimes.com ? That site seems to say that they can sell lifetime access to the issues from 2006-2016 for $59 per account. What about the years from 1974-2004, since VT was founded in 1974? MaynardClark (talk) 17:22, 27 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How about the GoogleBooks archive? MaynardClark (talk) 16:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

[1] Vegetarian Times online offers a distinct and easily accessible all-vegan-interest section

[2] Elizabeth Turner's LinkedIn profile page, which provides the relevant frame of reference for the recent historical period in question

[3] Active Interest Media's profile page at LinkedIn

[4] Vegetarian Business, VRG's links to vegetarian business analysis

[5] Owler profile for Vegetarian Times Magazine

[6] LinkedIn profile for Elizabeth Turner

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