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Identification help requested. And please

I would welcome help identifying this Vauxhall. As far as I can make out from the article, it may be a Vauxhall D-Type - one of the last of them. That's because the UK tax office has its engine capacity down as 3970 cc which is very close to the engine size given here for the Type D. But maybe someone can identify the car with more certainty....

Also I am confused by the article. Did Prince Henry Vauxhalls continue till 1922, or were they all finished by 1914 and the outbreak of war? In which case I guess one of us needs to split this entry somehow, but maybe that's for another day.

Thank you (if you did) for noting down your inputs on the identification question. Regards Charles01 (talk) 16:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are probably right but it could be a 23/60 OD. These were made from 1922 to 1926. Trouble is the only real difference between the OD and the D is that the OD has an overhead valve engine but they did have front wheel brakes which the car in your photo seems to lack.

I will make a start on splitting the article. The last Prince Henrys were in 1913. Malcolma (talk) 10:54, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm and thank you, Malcolm. Regards Charles01 (talk) 15:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Henry Vauxhalls

Anywhere else they are (correctly) Prince Henry Vauxhalls.

Anyone mind if I change the name of the article? I plan to change the text a great deal too, moving all the 30-98 stuff to that article and stopping the redirect to here. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 09:15, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I too think of them as Prince Henry Vauxhalls. It will be interesting to see how others react to your suggestion. At the very least, I would think it merits a redirect page.

I also welcome the prospect that you will develop the entry further. It has already improved massively since last I remember looking at it, but there's certainly scope for plenty more good stuff and ... um ... structure. The 30-98 appears deserving of it's own place. Regards Charles01 (talk) 09:55, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I had a go at this article and created a few other early Vauxhall articles a while back but was stymied by a lack of source material to hand. The 30/98 deserves much better treatment and its own article as it is an important car and should be separated out. Whether this article is called Vauxhall Prince Henry or Prince Henry Vauxhalls is something I don't really have strong opinions on but the latter is the more usual phrasing. Malcolma (talk) 13:28, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks people, The TImes has a lot of material in the 1920s, as if their Motoring Correspondent were a substantial shareholder in Vauxhall. So I have two stacks each of 30 or 40 pages, one large display ads with photos and the other of text descriptions but it is light regarding the 1907-1915 cars which probably means I just have to search more intelligently. Will keep at it. The same man manages a lengthy road test of a 30-98 and detailed lyrical report almost each year of the 1920s, complains when it is not exhibited at the Motor Show and mourns when it passes from 'the catalogue'!

Anyway, I will write up what I have (I may be gone some time but not forever), perhaps start a new page for Prince Henry Vauxhall and make this a redirect, as it has been here so long under that name, and make the current 30-98 redirect page the proper article about those cars. I am working from material written at the time and so it will lack the sage perspective editors like yourselves can supply so please do. Thanks and regards, Eddaido (talk) 23:05, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Anything but a Vauxhall specialist here, but Prince Henry Vauxhall is definitely the better known title. I think this article is where it is now just due to basic inertia, as people are used to title things with the producer listed first. I don't think you'll meet any serious resistance. Mr.choppers | ✎ 14:45, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Henry Vauxhall

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