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Series/Season 3 premiere dates and episode air dates

Regardless of what has been added for S3 for the U.S. by using Rotten Tomatoes as the source:

(1) PBS/Masterpiece official website does not list episodes for Season 3;
(2) "Airdate: No specific premiere date has been shared for Van der Valk Season 3." – Shows Coming to MASTERPIECE in 2023 and Beyond : Van Der Valk Season 3, PBS, January 24, 2023.
(3) "In the UK, series 3 of Van der Valk will air on ITV in 2023, date to be announced. ...In the US, it's a PBS series. We would expect to see the new season on PBS and the PBS Masterpiece Amazon channel sometime this year (no official date has been announced at time of writing)." – Van der Valk, Season 3: What We Know Right Now, I Heart British TV, March 25, 2023.

PBS is the authority on series/season premiere date and episode air dates in the United States. If PBS has not confirmed this information, then there is a problem with what Rotten Tomatoes published.
(This topic was originally posted in the Talk page of the 1972 series article, where the 2020 remake content was previously included). Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 03:09, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Online reports suggest that PBS will air it in the fall, as usual. Softlavender (talk) 03:15, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why are non-ITV airdates largely ignored? I've not seen this before. Usually articles specify the ORIGINAL airdate, and sometimes include an original network airdate along side it.DarkProdigy (talk) 15:52, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is a UK series created for ITV network (the original network) and the viewers total for episode air dates are UK viewers. However, the Release section includes where S3 premiered before premiering in the UK. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 12:12, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of move discussion

A move discussion has been opened at Talk:Van der Valk#Requested move 4 April 2023, since the recent move to add the date of that series to the article title was reverted as undiscussed. Softlavender (talk) 08:33, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Viewers totals do not have reliable sources cited

All the episodes for S1, S2, and now the first episode of S3 have no reliable sources to prove that the viewers total isn't an editor's made up shite. Reliable sources are mandatory: "In the English Wikipedia, verifiability means other people using the encyclopedia can check that the information comes from a reliable source."; "Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources".. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 10:06, 28 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I added all the missing sources. What I learned from doing this is that if viewer totals are going to be sourced to Thinkbox, the "Top programmes report" page for current results must be archived immediately, because the Thinkbox website does not allow searching for reports from the past (perhaps it's possible with a registration, which I won't do). Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 09:58, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Production Credits from 1972 version

The Production Credits for the 2020 Remake are wrong. Under 'Executive Producers', 'Producers', Cinematography' and 'Editors' the lists of names are copied from the original 1972 version. I have copies of the original series AND all three series of the remake, and NONE of the names listed appear on the programme credits. It would be better to remove the Production credits entirely rather than give incorrect information. Approtech (talk) 15:18, 15 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for pointing out this error. I removed all names that are related to the original series from the infobox. Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 11:31, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Year of premiere in lead

MOS:TVLEAD states: "The lead paragraphs of an article should serve both as a quick introduction to the topic, and as a concise overview of the article itself, as per the Lead section style guideline. For example, an article on a television series should begin with basic information about the show, such as when it first premiered, genre(s) and setting, who created or developed the show, its primary broadcasting station (typically the studio that produces the show), and when the show stopped airing (the first airing of the final episode), etc." — it does not say that the year of premiere must appear in the first sentence, not even in the first paragraph. It only needs to be included somewhere in the lead.
If you look at the MOS's "good example of a first paragraph": the lead of The Simpsons article does not include the year in either the first sentence or paragraph (it appears in the third paragraph). Pyxis Solitary (yak yak). Ol' homo. 10:20, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That example is not a helpful one to the reader. MOS:FIRST states that "The first sentence should tell the nonspecialist reader what or who the subject is, and often when or where." The lead sentence of all film articles state the year of release very clearly, often as the first word after "is a". Articles on TV series should do the same. It is unhelpful and confusing to the reader to state that "it is a loose remake of the original Van der Valk series that ran from 1972 to 1992" without previously stating the year this remake began airing. Softlavender (talk) 11:18, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]