Talk:Valérie Gauvin

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Reunion, France

Does an overseas territory's sovereign state really need to be included in the infobox? User:Danish Ranger 13:56, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Seems relevant when she represents that state internationally. --SuperJew (talk) 18:45, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't that satisfied by the reference to her as a French footballer in the intro? Similar to how the infoboxes for footballers born in overseas British territories like Gibraltar/Bermuda aren't written as 'Gibraltar/Bermuda, UK' - or dependencies like the Channel Islands (e.g. Matt Le Tissier, Graeme Le Saux) as 'Jersey/Guernsey, UK' - it doesn't make geographical sense. -Danish Ranger (talk) 00:26, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So someone born in Kaliningrad you would say is not in Russia? (for example Alexander Volkov (tennis)). The geographical sense is only because you are associating France with mainland France. Does someone have to be born on a specific island of Japan or Indonesia or Philippines to be born in Japan or Indonesia or Philippines? Is someone born in Crete, in Corsica, in Sicily, or in Sardinia not from Greece, France, or Italy? (they all have those countries in their infobox).

Clearly the consensus is to have the country, even if the city they were born in isn't on the mainland. --SuperJew (talk) 15:45, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore, for this specific point, Corsica and Réunion are both defined as "a region of France" --SuperJew (talk) 15:47, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Contiguity with the mainland isn't the sticking point here. I wouldn't dispute writing Kaliningrad as 'Kaliningrad, Russia' or Ajaccio in Corsica as 'Ajaccio, France' the same way I wouldn't dispute Honolulu in Hawaii being written as 'Honolulu, USA'. However, across articles on English Wiki about people born in Reunion, there's no overwhelming consensus on how to write this: most omit France, some don't, a few omit Reunion. Hence my initial edit, which was also influenced by the corresponding French article also omitting France. -Danish Ranger (talk) 17:55, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is relevant as she plays for the French national team. --SuperJew (talk) 19:07, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How does that make this case unique from the majority of other articles? As we've established, being born on Reunion makes her French by definition. It's not like there's a Reunionnais national team she could've played for instead. --Danish Ranger (talk) 19:53, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

there isn't? --SuperJew (talk) 21:14, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]