Talk:Vaguely Noble

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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From contributor Victor Middlesex. I'm not sure that much of what has been written here is verifiable let alone true. I'm not sure he was 'an Irish-bred thoroughbred' as although he may have spent some of his youth at the Cleaboy Stud in Ireland there is nosuffix used with his name to denote that he was actually born in Ireland. Major Lionel B Holliday, his breeder, was a Yorkshireman who owned both the Cleaboy Stud in Ireland and the Sandwich Stud in Newmarket, England. Most mares and young foals were kept at Sandwich Stud and only the weanlings at Cleaboy, so it is impossible to say he was Irish bred. Moreover in the second paragraph the assertion that breeder Lionel B holliday kept part ownership in his son Brook's name is hard to understand as Holliday died in 1965 and Vaguely Noble was sold in early December 1967. Vaguely Noble ran as a 2yo in the ownership and colours of Brook Holliday and was a highly successful 2yo winning the important Observer Gold Cup. As the article says he was sold but to Dr Franklyn. He ran in the colours of his wife, Mrs Wilma Franklyn. However the horse was part-owned by Nelson Bunker Hunt as Franklyn sold a half share immediately after buying the horse. He was not sent to Etienne Pollet immediately but was sent to Paddy Prendergast in Ireland, but within months was sent on to Pollet. The article as written gives the idea that he raced as a 2yo for these owners. If I can find time I will correct it all.(Victor Middlesex (talk) 07:17, 7 October 2010 (UTC))[reply]

The ASB has an (IRE) suffix added to Vaguely Noble, but his sire and dam are listed as GB. One editor had several times deleted my my tags requesting more refs. The pedigree query site is very unreliable and full of errors, too. It would be great if you can rectify the errors and supply refs. I can add a little, but there are so many poorly written and wrong Tb articles here.Cgoodwin (talk) 02:14, 8 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]