Talk:Uralic peoples
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[edit]There is no such thing as "Uralic peoples" apart from a linguistic construct, so I'm merging. kwami (talk) 23:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Please check your sources. Uralic peoples has a whole chapter in The Cambridge History of Early Inner Asia. Other than that Uralic peoples has 553 returns in google books and 146 in google scholar. So there is enough material out there on the subject that allows to make a good article out of it one day. So the article needs to be expanded instead of getting rid of it.--Termer (talk) 05:39, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- Merged again. This was just a description of languages masquerading as an article on people. For example, it made the claim that the Sayan Samoyed people are extinct, when what it should have actually said is that their language is extinct. You did expand with the Urheimat, but that is a linguistic construct, and belongs in the linguistic article. When that section becomes suitably developed, it can be split off as Proto-Uralic. (Oh look, there it is! When that article is suitably developed, it can be split off into Proto-Uralic people.) Meanwhile, this article is meaningless. It certainly is not an "ethnic group", as the tag I just removed would imply. Finno-Ugric peoples I'm willing to accept, with suitable cautions, because the article covers non-linguistic Finno-Ugric societies which have been around for some time, and therefore has some life besides that of a linguistic construct. kwami (talk) 21:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Again, please take the article into an AfD in case you wish to get rid of it. WP is based on WP:verify and WP:RS, not on what a single editor is willing to accept. And Uralic peoples is a valid subject in historical context, exactly like Proto-Indo-Europeans. Why don't you go and redirect the Indo-Europeans article into Indo-European languages first. WP:DEMOLISH is what you are doing here, and the article should be restored.--Termer (talk) 02:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
The lede or introductory paragraph
[edit]I found the lede to be very confusing. It is a paragraph containing lots of list, all of which have sub-lists in the same paragraph. It seems to be attempting to summarise the information in Uralic peoples#List of Uralic peoples. Surely the main message is that the Uralic peoples consists of the Finns, the Lapps, the Estonians, the Hungarians, and various peoples in Siberia.-- Toddy1 (talk) 08:18, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
- Don't worry about it. It's a bullshit article, once again merged into Finno-Ugric, which at least has some cultural and political resonance. — kwami (talk) 07:06, 23 March 2019 (UTC)