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Atomic bombing image
[edit]The issues about the image in question
- It is unencyclopedic and contains absolutely zero information on the station. In the image, nothing from the station itself was visible, and it does not give us an overview of the damage either. The only information we can infer from the image is that the station was bombed, which is already mentioned in the text.
- It is a needlessly gruesome image for readers who will be unprepared.
- There is good reason not to assume WP:Good Faith with Doanri's initial reverts [1] as they were apparently ad hominem over several unrelated topics. Continued WP:OWNING behavior at the moment further demonstrates this fact. Esiymbro (talk) 15:19, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- No need to cast WP:ASPERSIONS on either 'owning', since I barely touch any Japan-related articles and have barely edited this one, or on 'ad hominem editing', since I have not engaged in the discussion using ad hominem arguments.
- On topic: the image shows the extent of the damage to the station, which is indeed unrecognisable in the photo because of the bombing. Doanri (talk) 16:06, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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I barely touch any Japan-related articles
" which is exactly the proof that you are hounding other editors. Have I not made this clear? Esiymbro (talk) 16:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)- You really hadn't, I'm afraid, but shall we discuss the image in its merits rather than continue this charade? Doanri (talk) 16:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Let's stop pretending that you made these reverts because of the image's "merits".
- For a real discussion on the image, please see MOS:OMIMG — "a potentially offensive image should be included only if its omission would cause the article to be less informative, relevant, or accurate, and no equally suitable alternative is available." The guideline uses vulgar/obscene situations as an example but there is no reason to believe that it does not apply to graphic images of violence. Now, apart from the dead babies, which part of the image is not described in the text? Can you even tell how much of the station was shown, or if it was the station's building at all?
- Again, as I said, the image belongs in the article Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki or similar topics, not here. Esiymbro (talk) 16:54, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- I was not aware of MOS:OMIMG. We should then definitely remove the image. Doanri (talk) 18:18, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- You really hadn't, I'm afraid, but shall we discuss the image in its merits rather than continue this charade? Doanri (talk) 16:37, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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3O Response: Thank you for sumbmitting a third opinion request. I'll have to agree with Esiymbro ultimately. It is a potentially informative encyclopedic image, but it does not belong in this article simply because it is not relevant enough to the scope. This article is not about the bombing–the image is. ––FormalDude (talk) 18:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC) ––FormalDude (talk) 18:13, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for providing your view. Esiymbro (talk) 18:22, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
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