Talk:University of Texas at Arlington Rebel theme controversy

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by BlueMoonset (talk) 13:44, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Merge discussion has closed as "merge", so there won't be an article left for DYK

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University of Texas at Arlington Rebel theme

• ... that the University of Texas at Arlington Rebel theme controversy (Rebel theme pictured) ended after it caused "discord and contention" and "adversely affected the morale" on campus? Source: Saxon 1995, p. 117

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/A Place Inside of Me

Moved to mainspace by Michael Barera (talk). Self-nominated at 21:03, 21 November 2021 (UTC).

• Date and length fine. AGF on book source. QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. Picture licence fine. Good to go. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:05, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what source is supposed to support the hook statement that the controversy ended, but the article doesn't seem to: many supporters of the Rebel theme had hard feelings about the whole experience, some of whom remained opposed to the change and Harrison's actions decades later. This indicates to me that while the Rebel theme was replaced (with Maverick), said removal, and the theme itself, remains controversial, even as its retention was controversial at the time. A new hook would seem to be needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:45, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

How about this? Michael Barera (talk) 20:45, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that the University of Texas System Board of Regents grew tired of the University of Texas at Arlington Rebel theme controversy (Rebel theme pictured) and voted to abolish the Rebel theme in 1971? Source: Barker & Worcester 2015, p. 73; Saxon 1995, p. 117

Michael Barera, I feel ALT1 is too repetitive: the phrase "Rebel theme" is used three times, and "University of Texas" appears twice. Looking at the image source, it says "Rebels mascot" rather than "Rebel theme", so reflecting that could help the "pictured" bit. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:41, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Well, BlueMoonset, what would you prefer to see? Michael Barera (talk) 18:24, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Michael Barera, not to be flip, but something that is a) supported by a source and by the article itself, and b) not repetitive. I've looked through the article a few times, and have had trouble coming up with something that is both interesting and meets both a) and b). I've struck the original and ALT1 hooks, and hope you're able to find something more effective and supported without being repetitious. Best of luck. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:59, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

• I'm not sure if a corollary of WP:DYKSG#D5 applies here; we may want to see what happens with the merge proposal before continuing with this, as it wouldn't be good for this to appear on the Main Page with a merge banner. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 21:47, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

• Reiterating icon here; holds do apply to merge proposals as well as AfD nominations. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:59, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Is this nomination going to move anytime soon? It's been held up since December and the merge discussion has yet to be completed. This is the oldest currently open DYK nomination, so if it's not going to move forward within a reasonable timeframe it may be time to close this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:44, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: seems like not, but I'm curious—we keep finding ourselves in this position, and we can't be the only ones. Is there any way to get more eyes on merge proposals? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 07:07, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

I've notified the 4 related WikiProjects on the talk pages. Hopefully that will help a bit. This is a relatively complicated merger though; the articles involved are fairly large. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 23:59, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

• As the oldest active nomination and with the merger discussion still not closed, I'm starting to wonder if we should simply close this nomination as stale. Courtesy ping to Michael Barera in case they haven't seen the rest of the discussion yet. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:09, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

• This nomination needs a follow up. Flibirigit (talk) 17:41, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

  For what it's worth the merge discussion does appear to be leaning towards towards a merge so far, with two merge !votes and even the article creator being open to one. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

  • @Narutolovehinata5: two is usually enough to close an AfD—you could close? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 18:31, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

As a rule I don't really edit article anymore outside my general editing interests (i.e. Japanese pop culture). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:30, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

• Merge discussion has been closed as "merge"; the article will be merged into another, so the nomination is being closed. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:44, 23 March 2022 (UTC)