Talk:Universal remote
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file formats
[edit]What file formats exist for documenting IR remote codes? What programs exist for working with these file formats? What devices exist for using these files? What databases are available of these codes? 69.87.204.237 15:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- The most popular form is Pronto hex. Specific remotes also have their own configuration files with IR codes such as the .ccf format for Pronto and .mxd for URC's MX-700 through MX-850. Most programming software that is used to program remotes has a database, such as URC's MX-editor. Remotecentral.com has a large database of various file types and pronto hex too. Andrewwski 21:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
history
[edit]The article has that Philips Magnavox made the first universal remote (and [1] indicates they may have), but Steve Wozniak in his book iWoz, 2006, claims that he was "the first to make what is now known as a universal remote control" (p262). Is Woz wrong? I'm assuming he's not wrong because the CL 9 wikipedia article agrees with him...
- As External links is referencing : Programming a Jasco/GE Universal Remote Control, http://www.jascoproducts.com/ company Jasco is still call it as "GE remote". The staff of GE consumer electronics Japan operation which sourced various electronics parts of TV and know that in 1985-1986, one engineer invented it at Portsmouth VA, GE TV set final assemble factory. In that time, GE is merged RCA and almost sell TV business to Thomson SA, France. GE thought that the programmable remote is not fit to GE's business and wanted to license someone else to make programmable remote as the commodity which separate from TV set business. Japanese SANWA is one of first licensee who still now producing programmable remote with various eminent brand logo and supply as OEM. CL 9 was a universal remote control company started by Steve Wozniak may be possible first mass producer in U.S. market, but may not inventor. Some Japanese are surely licensee and Steve Wozniak is also possibly one of licensee from GE. Can any one talk or up date for invent history ? from Japan: --125.192.171.108 11:41, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Adding more....Phrasing:"As an exclusive GE licensee, Jasco Products Company develops..." should be reviewed, they have history since 1975. http://www.jascoproducts.com/aboutjasco/ http://www.jascoproducts.com/products/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=26 --125.192.171.108 00:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Correction:--125.197.178.164 00:12, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- I remember getting a CL 9 while developing UEI's remote. Woz may have been early but that thing hardly worked. Eeekster (talk) 05:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Restructuring the article
[edit]I don't like how the article has the sections "Device based" and "Activity based". You'll never see remotes categorized like this. All higher end remotes, including URC's Home Theater Master series and Complete Control series of course can be programmed to do macros. Just like the Harmonies. The Harmonies also can allow you to select various device functions. So I don't think that this is the best way to organize the article. Andrewwski 21:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
- Indeed, it's written like an advertisement for Logitech's remotes. As you said, the "activities" are nothing more pre-programmed macros, and from what I heard they're actually significantly less flexible than REAL macros (which Logitech's Harmony remotes do NOT support.) They are, however, MUCH easier for the non-technically oriented to use. The article also implies that activity-based remotes are the only way to avoid switching between devices--WRONG. Most modern universal remotes have a feature called "punchthrough" (or alternately, "aliasing") that allows you to control devices other than the one you've currently selected (e.g., using the TV's volume control when VCR is selected.) Again, Logitech's solution *may* be easier to set up, but it certainly isn't the only solution and it's actually quite limiting for technically-minded users who know precisely how they want their remote to behave.
- The device-based vs. activity-based dichotomy is so badly skewed I'm going to simply delete the entire thing. Once the bias is removed, there isn't much left to save. In reality, "activity-based" is simply a user-friendly way of accessing two EXTREMELY common features--aliasing and macros. --Lode Runner (talk) 04:42, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
Random comments
[edit]I find that line about technically inclined vs. non-inclined individuals to be insulting. In my opinion, it would be much more useful to have information on how to program a remote, as that is likely why people are searching this topic. 207.6.29.239 (talk) 21:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)thescreendoorslams
Any personal interest in this wiki is undoubtedly to consolidate [at least] two technologies - the remote control as a third party peripheral and the media device[s] it is used on. As such, all aspects of compatibility should be included, or linked to where it already exists. This could only be community built, nobody owns everything and would usually stop looking when they find what works for them. I've e.g. been corresponding with Humax and Linsar to try determine the best keyboard remote as Smart TVs nowadays are put to best use when the search function is used and a keyboard is the quickest way to input characters. Humax replies saying none of the bluetooth remotes will work, so it needs to be an IR learning remote and these do exist, but then it's still a shot in the dark until you have one you're happy with and can describe the functionality that makes it best for use with the device - and even then, the Smart TV may throw a spanner in the works, as we're talking [Humax] top box, so there's the likelihood of needing to try more than one to find that ideal unit and what a compatibilty list and thorough guide to attaining purposeful use will ensure makes finding one easier in future. Check out, https://www.imore.com/best-smart-tv-keyboards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pyrofex (talk • contribs) 00:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Programming
[edit]I decided to add a section for readers who may need help finding the resources they need to program their universal remote. I included a link to a website that has downloadable commands for most universal remotes and also informed the readers that instructions can generally be found included with their remote or on the manufacturers website. i also included brief information on how to manually program most universal remotes and discussed the website in more detail.Bon1122334455 (talk) 12:55, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, I left a message on your talk page but I have reverted your edits. Please see WP:NOTHOWTO. Thanks! --My Pants Metal (talk) 16:51, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- I added different information and methods on programming a universal remote as I believe this will be helpful to readers and will provide information for people looking to program their universal remote. Bon1122334455 (talk) 16:58, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Again, your edits were in violation of WP:NOTHOWTO. Please read that page as it specifically states that Wikipedia is not an instruction manual. I understand you may be just trying to help, but if someone wants information on how to program their universal remote, then that info can easily be Googled and found elsewhere. --My Pants Metal (talk) 19:03, 14 February 2023 (UTC)