Talk:United States Intercollegiate Lacrosse Association

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Discrepancies, 1914–1929

The following 14 teams are listed in Section 2.1 as being among the national co-champions for the years shown. However, they are not included in the list of annual champions at the Hickok Sports History website (http://web.archive.org/web/20130426044557/http:/www.hickoksports.com/history/ncamlacr.shtml).

1914 Lehigh, Cornell

1916 Cornell

1918 Johns Hopkins

1919 Johns Hopkins

1920 Syracuse

1922 Johns Hopkins

1923 Johns Hopkins

1924 Johns Hopkins

1925 Syracuse

1928 Maryland, Navy, Rutgers

1929 Navy

Johns Hopkins includes the 5 co-championships from 1918–1919 and 1922–1924 among its claimed national championships. During those five seasons, Hickok Sports lists only the 3 championships for Navy, 2 for Syracuse and 1 for Army (with Navy and Syracuse sharing the 1922 title). Why does this difference exist?

Jeff in CA (talk) 01:42, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It turns out that Hickok is not authoritative. Don't trust it, at least for lacrosse. Its list includes significant errors. The USILA itself even published these errors on its own website, with a citation of Wikipedia! The Hickok website can no longer be accessed, as its domain URL has been abandoned and has been so for a long time apparently. Hickok must have obtained its list from somewhere else rather than doing the research. I believe the table shown at the web archive site linked above and at other sites around the internet are, in fact, exact copies of each other, having been propagated without knowing the precise source. This is so because reliable sources exist in the form of books written by legendary coaches of the best college teams and the claims of championships that the various colleges themselves recognize, and these reliably sourced claims are in many instances different from the Hickok list and its copycats.

Jeff in CA (talk) 23:16, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]