Talk:United Air Lines Flight 629

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On 8 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from United Airlines Flight 629 to United Air Lines Flight 629. The result of the discussion was moved.

2006 note asking for help and later update

I have been a registered member since the fall of 2005. I have a curiosity question, to help me to better understand how this posting system works.

The revisions to this article, made on September 28, 2005, were made by me. I added the fact that the Graham 629 bomb, was the second one to bring down an airliner in the united States, and then I went on to list other cases of airliner sabotage, including the 1933 UAL Chesterton crash.

~~I note that my nic, [EditorASC] does not show up as the author of that revision. Is that because I somehow failed to sign in, when I made it?~~

Thanks, for any help/explanation, which will help me to do a better job in the future.

--EditorASC 03:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that question looks kinda silly now, after I have done a few hundred revisions in Wikpedia. Needless to say, I now know where the revision record can be found. EditorASC (talk) 06:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Personal knowledge and unpublished information. Living persons.

I edited this page yesterday, but the addition was removed due to lack of citation (and perhaps because it was a bit out of context). I have known Raymond Pere and his wife since I was a child, about the time flight 629 went down. Both are still alive. I can probably get supporting evidence from United Airlines regarding the two pilots who avoided dying by deadheading back to Seattle on a different flight. Would this be sufficient for inclusion? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.54.212.101 (talk) 05:22, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is a repository for information, sumarized in the words of the editor, that has been published in the press. wp:notability, wp:RS, wp:five pillars may all help. Unless the press has covered these bits of information, they won't probably belong in Wikipedia. wp:BLP ~~might~~ also appears to apply. Shajure (talk) 12:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article about the bombing

An editor argues that this is about a crime, not a flight numbered 629. This does have some merit, I think. I wonder if the article should be moved to "Bombing of...", and a redirect from this to it.Shajure (talk) 02:58, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Source for the pilot being a WWII veteran

Lee H Hall was the pilot when the plane exploded and crashed. The text has a parenthetical note following his name that says he was a World War II veteran. Is there a source for that? One Seattle newspaper said he was a pilot with United since Dec 1941. War service means he took time away from being a commercial pilot, if the article was accurate. That is entirely credible that he did, but I cannot find a record for his service so far. The Civil Aeronautics Board report is not visible online, though it was not used as a source for that remark. Thanks. --Prairieplant (talk) 09:44, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Remorse quote

In 2006 a quote was added to this article:

"as far as feeling remorse for these people, I don't. I can't help it. Everybody pays their way and takes their chances. That's just the way it goes."

No citation was provided. Since then, a citation has been added, but that citation is from 2013, and likely took the quote from this article (or from Jack Gilbert Graham, into which it was copied). We need a citation for this that predates that edit.

"This reference is defined in a template or other generated block, and for now can only be edited in source mode."

I only started editing Wikipedia a few months ago and have never used source mode, so I don't know what any of this means.

I was trying to see what a citation was but when I clicked on it, it just said "This reference is defined in a template or other generated block, and for now can only be edited in source mode."

Can someone explain what this message means?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ranicher (talk • contribs) 00:24, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:1955 MacArthur Airport United Airlines crash which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 16:20, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Outcome was that for flights before the name change the old "Air Lines" would be used.Shajure (talk) 02:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]