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Different "Union" parties

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There is significant duplication between this page and Unconditional Unionist Party (United States) reflecting confusion surrounding several "Union" parties that existed in the United States prior to and during the American Civil War. At least in the case of this article, confusion seems partly the result of a paucity of sources, with the page as a whole citing only a couple of pages from two published secondary sources, a single contemporary newspaper article, and the Congressional Biographical Directory.

  • The Union Party was the name used by several state parties organized by southern supporters of the Compromise of 1850, some of whom supported Daniel Webster for president in 1852.
  • The Unconditional Union Party refers to wartime supporters of the Union government in the border states, notably the Blair family.

Despite the obvious similarities in naming and the broadly-defined goal of "union," these three Union parties were unrelated and, in the case of the 1850s Union party, came from opposing political movements. Contrary to what is stated in the lede for this article, the 1850s Union Party did not "become" the UUP. The former was active only in the Lower South states of Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi and never had a presence in the border states that later supported the UUP. Likewise, the 1850s Union Party was in no way a precursor to the northern wartime coalition that became the NUP. Claiming that the 1850s Union Party "became" the 1860s UUP/NUP is like claiming the British Whig Party "became" the American Whig Party in the 1830s; they're two unrelated parties that happen to have similar names.

I'm going to try to disentangle the relevant threads, hopefully with the result of a stronger and better-sourced trio of articles, but thought I would leave a note in case anyone else was confused by the current set-up.

Nathaniel Greene (talk) 19:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]