Talk:Ultimate X-Men (2024)

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A fact from Ultimate X-Men (2024) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 14 October 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Maystorm, a character from Ultimate X-Men, was initially created for a variant cover for the comic X-Men?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ultimate X-Men (2024).

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Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by DimensionalFusion talk 20:47, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Maystorm, a character from Ultimate X-Men, was initially created as a variant cover for the X-Men comic?

Source: Cameron Bonomolo (January 23, 2024). "Ultimate X-Men Writer Teases "Something Completely New and Different"". Comic Book.com. Retrieved April 26, 2024.

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Khalji Revolution

Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 123 past nominations.

Cambalachero (talk) 13:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Cambalachero! Overall, I think the article is well-written. Earwig showed no copyright violations, and the article was moved to mainspace on 16 August, so it is new enough. However, I have some concerns about the plot section. Although there are no specific standard for its length and the current plot summary is sourced, I think it is a bit too lengthy, as it is longer than the lead, editorial history, and reception sections combined. Trimming it down to around 400 to 700 words would be more suitable for the article, so it does not overly focus on in-universe content. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Done, just made it significantly shorter. Articles about comics tend to be magnets for people compelled to add every detail of the plots, you get distracted for a couple of days and the plot section grows exponentially. Cambalachero (talk) 15:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yea, I realise the one who expanded the plot summary section was not you. Thanks for cleaning up the article. Ready to go now! —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 12:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article is not "long enough" due to the bare-bones lede section—please expand. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 15:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- Done, but that's not the DYK criteria. "Long enough" is not subjective or open to opinion, it's about being larger than 1500 bytes. Concerns about the article unrelated to the DYK nomination should go to the talk page, not here. Cambalachero (talk) 16:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yet WP:DYKCOMPLETE states that any article that is to appear on the front page should appear to be reasonably complete and not some sort of work in progress; there's nothing presentable on a DYK nom with a lede that consists of nothing more than an opening sentence. Having said that, I'm reverting the approved tick. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 16:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - I opened the comment with "Done". Meaning, although I do not consider this part of the DYK criteria, I did expand the lead as asked. Cambalachero (talk) 16:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Plot size

The huge plot section was requested to be reduced in Template:Did you know nominations/Ultimate X-Men (2024), and with good reason. We have a guideline at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction, which says "The length of the prose should be carefully balanced with the length of the other sections, as well as the length of the story itself; simple plots may require only short summaries.". A film has a limit of 700 words of plot, this comic is barely in the 7º issue (with surely loads of stuff still to happen) and it is already in 800 words. Is there any need for it to be that long? Deadpool & Wolverine is fine with just 678 words. Cambalachero (talk) 17:10, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]