Talk:Ulli Lommel

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imdb a reliable source?

CyberGhostface said that "imdb is hardly a reliable source, as users can submit information. (once IMDB said Jessica Alba would be in Saw IV!) And in lommel's case, his bio reads like a press release he wrote". Well, what is Wikipedia then? Everybody can submit info to Wikipedia, IMDB updates only info from reliable updaters. Is it just that user CyberGhostface hates Lommel and doesn't want that Wikipedia, A DICTIONARY, would have anything about him? Jacques clouseau (talk) 16:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And another thing; his IMDB bio is written by Eric Mees who has written bios of five another filmmakers. No one of those has ever worked with Lommel, so I think it's quite obvious that Lommel's IMDB bio is not a "press release", as CyberGhostface said. Jacques clouseau (talk) 17:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia ISN'T a reliable source. Thats why you'll never see Wikipedia source itself. Wikipedia is ONLY a reliable source when it is BACKED UP by reliable sources.

IMDB doesn't update 'only' from reliable updaters. Again, IMDB has posted numerous false information in the past.

I don't hate Lommel. I've never seen any of his films. My problem has less to do with him as a person or artist but the article itself. If I were to sabotage an article because I didn't like the person it was on, I'd be sabatoging a lot of articles. Trust me. I dislike Philip Pullman more than I do Lommel, and you don't see me going after his article because its sourced. I just have a problem seeing such obvious unsourced POV on Wikipedia. Lommel is hardly the first one I've dealt with, and he probably won't be the last. If you can find a reliable source, then go ahead. Add it.--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And if you think IMDB constitutes as a reliable source, then by all means, bring it up on the noticeboard. Chances are I won't be alone in my opinion.--CyberGhostface (talk) 19:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone can edit Wikipedia, but those who don't follow the policies such as WP:V, WP:BLP etc. tend to have their edits reverted and may be blocked from editing. See WP:RS for a guideline as to what sources are considered reliable for use as references in Wikipedia articles. Note that the standards are high where information about living people is concerned. Other wikis and blogs are not considered reliable sources. --Coppertwig (talk) 16:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

imdb is reliable ONLY for film authorship/screenwriting credits supplied by the Writer's Guild, nothing else. See Wikipedia:Reliable_source_examples#Use_of_electronic_or_online_sources and House of cards. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 16:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]