Talk:U boj, u boj
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"Use in sporting events"
[edit]Why is there a section on "use in sporting events" (which is unsourced) and what is the relevance of a song by Jovan Jovanović Zmaj in an article about a different song? Tzowu (talk) 20:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
--The Croatian historian Hrvoje Klasić have explained that “the most used fan verse” comes from this song. That was sourced and that should be mentioned. Furthermore, he have explained that the verse is incorrectly combined with the verse from another (Serbian patriotic) poem. The full lyrics of both songs confirm that. There is no reason to be angry, these are normal situations for this region. For example, the Serbian anthem was composed by a Slovene, the Croatian by a Serb etc.--WEBDuB (talk) 19:05, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Editorial pieces and TV interviews are not RS for a reason, and here's why. Putting together the words "u boj" (to battle) and "za narod svoj" (for your nation) is not rocket science. There are plenty of examples of that in various songs:
- Writer Josip Milaković in 1884 in Vienac published a song that included: "sa Hrvati tad u boj, za slobodu, narod svoj" [1]
- In 1898 in Istria, there was a song that included the verse: "Složno svi u boj, spasit narod svoj" [2]
- The Partisans had a song called "Oj, ta narodna vojska" with the verse "U boj, u boj, za radni narod svoj." [3] And another song: "Drugovi smo partizani, Hrlimo u boj - Za slobodu, za Partiju I za narod svoj" [4]
- The army march of the Croatian Legion ("Hrvatski sam Legionar") on the eastern front in 1941 included this: "Trublje glas zove nas, Hajd', hajd' u boj za narod svoj." [5]
- In 1847 in Zora Dalmatinska, the words are also found, though not in the same verse, but in a similar context [6]
- So how can someone know which one of these, and others that are not that easily accessible, was the direct inspiration for whoever started using the words "u boj za narod svoj" on football stadiums? Though I somehow doubt that he knew much about 19th century literature. Tzowu (talk) 18:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
wrong information
[edit]Song "Bojna pesma" was written by Jovan Jovanovic Zmaj Rhea1411 (talk) 03:03, 16 January 2023 (UTC)