Talk:UTS-UC Hawks Handball Club

This page was proposed for deletion by Aloneinthewild (talk · contribs) on 4 March 2018 with the comment:
non notable student club
It was contested by Malo95 (talk · contribs) on 2018-03-10 with the comment:
Played international and national at the highest level of handball

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Proposed deletion

@Aloneinthewild:. The UTS Hawks plays in the highest Australian League and they also competed at the Oceania Handball Champions Cup witch is the Continental Handball Cup. So I think there is enough reasons to keep it. --Malo95 (talk) 18:06, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agree. Not only do they play in the highest league in Australia but also the Oceania Handball Champions Cup which is a qualifying tournament to the International Handball Federation's (world body for handball) world club challenge the IHF Super Globe. I can't believe we're even discussing this! --HandballHero (talk) 20:50, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think someone has been Alone in the wild too long and hasn't heard of the league the UTS-UC Hawks Handball Club play in.--Greg Nail (talk) 20:52, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This club are contenders in their national & regional club championships which are feeder tournaments to the world club championship. May I also remind you that Handball is an Olympic sport just like your rowing Aloneinthewild. I suggest you stick to editing about subject's you know. --Kpaspery (talk) 21:09, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Getting round to replying to you. First, wow - did I poke the hornet's nest? (for handball fans). Can I remind you to WP:Assume good faith.

On first glance, this pages only reference is to the handball league website. I'm focusing on the problem of notability here, relevant guideline is WP:ORG. The article should prove it is a notable subject, An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability. All content must be verifiable. If no independent, third-party, reliable sources can be found on a topic, then Wikipedia should not have an article on it. To me there is no third party source here, and a news article search shows no reliable sources. I would advise you to find reliable sources if you are creating these pages - similar problems exist on Oceania Handball Champions Cup (no sources) and Handball League Australia. Aloneinthewild (talk) 12:17, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

When I google Oceania Handball Champions Cup I have a loot of third-party sources, also about the Handball League Australia I found some sources. About this specific team I found thes two sources: Countdown to Oceania Club Championships and handball world (German). So I found some sources. You should now that Google filters the result for you and when you are from the UK and you never searched about handball it's hard to find results at Google. --Malo95 (talk) 13:07, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I have Google set to worldwide. But you know handball more than me and are more likely to find sources in the right publications. Can you add those sources to this article? I'm trying to be helpful by saying you should cite these articles when you create them, otherwise you will find another editor coming along and querying why the article exists. Aloneinthewild (talk) 13:38, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]