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I wonder, if she should have prefix USS, since she was an Army vessel... Pibwl ←« 23:14, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article shouldn't. Coast guard is USGS, USarmy transports are USAT. These are rams and have no official prefix. The naval historians at history.navy.mil refer to her as U.S. Ram Queen of the West. here. There are a few other us army vessels that were never in the us nave. Suggestions for renaming? -J JMesserly (talk) 22:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

She (and the rest of the ram fleet) were transferred to the Navy in November 1862, so "USS" is certainly appropriate after that time. Aside from the question of technical accuracy, it seems that the prefix is widely used in order to keep the two sides straight in a war in which no other clues indicate loyalties. (By the same token, it is customary to label the ships of the River Defense Fleet with "CSS" although they were never part of the Confederate States Navy.)

The general application of "USS" to all vessels of the United States Navy seems to have arisen sometime during or shortly after the Civil War, so it is already somewhat anachronistic in any article concerned with that war. When reading about battles or ship histories, most Wikipedia readers are probably not concerned with such labeling details. Personally, I would be interested to know precisely how and when the change took place; do you think it would be worth a separate article? PKKloeppel (talk) 13:53, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Links to wrong Grand Lake

The link refers to Grand Lake in Cameron Parish, but the text refers to the ship operating in the Atchafalaya. The link should either refer to the appropriate Grand Lake, or be de-linked. RPellessier | Talk 06:32, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pilot who grounded the Queen before her capture

Ellet alleges the pilot was a rebel sympathizer (see cite in article or page 385 of "The Rebellion Record" By Frank Moore where Ellet's report is reproduced.[1]). It would be interesting to find out what became of Mr. Garvey- eg. if a court case was filed and the allegations were proven to be true. The most I could say was "alleged"- because it is entirely plausible that Ellet was scapegoating. -J JMesserly (talk) 17:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]