Talk:UNCC

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The University is much more well known at this point in time than the UN Compensation Committee. 70.61.100.232 15:51, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention the levels of information in each article. University is a much larger article. Would those of you who keep reverting the redirect change be in favor of a statement on top of the universitys page saying "his article is about the university. If you were looking for the United Nation Compensation Committee, go here."? 70.61.100.232 15:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The history of the page indicates that some people think UNCC should redirect to the Compensation ~~Committee~~ Commission rather than the university. The matter is clearly in dispute; surely it's fairer to leave it as a disambiguation page? Bolivian Unicyclist 16:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I would have to disagree. The university is much more well-known than any of these links, and the article is also much higher quality. Perhaps we can have the link refer to the university, and then say for other uses, etc... Any agreement? Thanks!70.61.100.232 18:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about the quality, but unfortunately, according to WP:DAB, that's not a criterion. As for the university being better known, you're speaking of your own point of view: I had never heard of it until I stumbled over this page looking for the UN Commission (which, interestingly enough, is what the page UNCC referred to when it was initially created). There's no justification for the University to be allowed a land-grab over the other disambiguation entries listed here (WP:NPOV, WP:CSB). Bolivian Unicyclist 19:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I saw no criteria on that page that applies to this situation. UNCC is the 3rd largest public university in North Carolina. The commission's page has 1 paragraph. So, I assume you are not in favor of my above recommendation? 70.61.100.232 04:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your recommendation = redirecting to the university and putting a hat-note there? No, I think that's an unwarrantedly biased solution. WP:DAB says that would be justified if there were "a well known primary meaning for a term or phrase, much more used than any other" and that's not the case here: use of UNCC to refer to the university doesn't outstrip its use in the other meanings to that degree. UNCC isn't UCLA, isn't UNAM, isn't Sciences-Po. But I can live with UNCC as a disambiguation page as it currently stands. Bolivian Unicyclist 13:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

UNCC (university) is a school which currently has 22,000 students and will have 35,000 by the year 2025. It is in a metro region which is growing exponentially (Charlotte, NC). If we could check out the number of hits on each of these pages, I would predict that the university receives at least 4 or 5 times as many hits as the commission. Actually, what I was proposing is the reverse of the way it used to be. UNCC used to go directly to the commission, and there became a point where the university was much more well known than the commission. Can we bring in an unbiased admin to resolve this once and for all? 70.61.100.232 15:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, all of these comments by the unsigned person were by me. I just realized I wasn't signed in. Ironman5247 15:36, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Ironman. It's much nicer to be talking to someone with a name rather than an anonymous IP number. If you're truly convinced that UNCC should redirect to University of North Carolina at Charlotte and not be a disambigation listing then, yes, there are several dispute resolution mechanisms available, most of which involve getting a fresh set of eyes involved. Please, just remember to leave a note here about any avenues you do pursue. Bolivian Unicyclist 16:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't had time to be on here for a while, but don't worry. I'm still going to try and get a fresh set of eyes for us. :)Ironman5247 11:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(butting in) I'd leave the disambig page as it is. Even if the University is "better known" in some circles, the abbreviation is still in regular use for other things. I think abbreviations are a particular case in which we need to be extremely cautious about designating a "primary" topic. Personally, I don't think "4 or 5 times as many hits" as the next alternative is enough to justify redirecting the page -- I'd do it only if the other uses are very uncommon or obsolete. --Russ (talk) 17:41, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an admin, but I don't think you're looking for one in particular yet. I think the base name UNCC should become a redirect to the university, but if there is any objection about it (particularly given that it would appear to be US-centric rather than a worldwide view, even if correct), then it should remain the disambiguation page. Note that UNC-C redirects to the university, which I think is appropriate -- that's how I remember the university being "acronymized" as a youth growing up not too far from Charlotte. To solicit other opinions, you might also request a move of UNCC to UNCC (disambiguation), with the reason of opening up the base name to be a redirect to the university. -- JHunterJ 17:41, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]