Talk:Tysiatskii

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Tysyatski == En tusen man

The word is direct loan from Swedish language (En) Tusental man in English (One) Thousand number of men. Again here is shown when Russian writer tries to explane it (wrongly) to Greek or Deutsch languages. An reminiscent of the old multi ethnic Novgorod soldiers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.115.126.143 (talk) 16:46, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, anonymous user! You should read the intro to the article more carefully. It says "Tysyatsky (tysiatsky, Russian: тысяцкий; sometimes translated "dux" or "Heerzog" but more correctly meaning "thousandman" - sometimes translated into the Greek "chilliarch") was a military leader in Ancient Rus, who commanded a people's volunteer army called тысяча (tysyacha, or a thousand)". It doesn't say anything about the word Tysyatsky coming from German or Greek language. KNewman (talk) 20:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 27 December 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Colonestarrice (talk) 08:57, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Tysyatsky → Tysiatskii – WP:COMMONNAME: the most common form in English-language reliable sources[1] (corresponds to romanization by the modified Library of Congress system widely used in academic and popular-academic literature). —Michael Z. 23:02, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since the 1970s, the proposed spelling comprises 50% to 100% of the top two usages.[2] —Michael Z. 04:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, your ngram actually shows that the usage of the current spelling actually grew significantly in the last decade. Alaexis_¿question? 08:34, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You mean after this article was published in 2006? Interesting. What guideline relates to that? WP:CRYSTALBALLs, I guess. —Michael Z. 14:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per well-researched nomination. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 03:12, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, it seems like lately the current spelling has become predominant, see the ngram and also google scholar results tysyatsky - nearly all results are post-2010, Tysiatskii - the newest article dates from 2013. Alaexis_¿question? 14:15, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How can you possibly say that?

The Google Books Ngrams above show the proposed spelling was predominant in every one of the last 50 years in a row that are indexed (1969–2019). Google Scholar returns 53 results with the proposed spelling[3] and 51 with the current spelling[4] since 2014. —Michael Z. 15:04, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nominator rationale Marcelus (talk) 19:03, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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