Talk:Tyrannosaurus in popular culture
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Three fingers forelimb
[edit]It seems the Tyrannosaurus did in fact had 3 fingers. T. Rex's Missing 3rd Finger Found --Astrowob 13:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
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Here's what I cut
[edit]From "television appearances":
- transforms into a T. rex in the Family Guy episode "Family Guy Viewer Mail". Another Tyrannosaurus rex would be seen in a cutaway gag in the direct-to-DVD Family Guy movie, Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story.]]
- American Dad! - Francine and the Ghost of Christmas Past encounter a Tyrannosaurus rex in the episode The Best Christmas Story Never after accidentally travelling too far back in time.
- Black Cat - In this Manga/Anime series a Tyrannosaurus called Flora appears as the mascot of a rich woman.
- Blackadder: Back & Forth - Blackadder encounters a T. rex while time-travelling in this one-off special.
- Dexter's Laboratory - A T. rex appeared in the episode, Jurassic Pooch.
- Digimon - as the characters Tyrannomon and DarkTyrannomon.
- Dino-Riders - The arch-villain, Lord Krulos, used a Tyrannosaurus rex as his mount.
- Dinosaucers - The arch-villain of the program, "Genghis Rex", is an evolved Tyrannosaurus.
- Dinozaurs -In this anime series there is a Tyrannosaurus with the ability to transform who goes by the name of Dino Tyranno. Dino Tyranno is the leader of the Dino Knights. He and the other seven Core Dino Knights reside in the Dinoterium as skeleton-displays in the museum. He wields the Silver Sword.
- Doctor Who - The Tyrannosaurus rex made a brief appearance in the episode "Invasion of the Dinosaurs".
- Eek! the Cat - anthropomorphic T. rex in The Terrible Thunderlizards
- Extreme Dinosaurs - T-Bone is an evolved T. rex and the leader of the Extreme Dinosaurs.
- Fairly OddParents - A Tyrannosaurus appeared in the episode, Remy Rides Again.
- Futurama - Fry rides on a Tyrannosaurus rex in the episode "I Dated A Robot", it was one of the things Fry has always wanted to do. He also feeds it a pig and, inadvertently, his hands.
- Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger - Geki aka "TyrannoRanger" in Kyōryū Sentai Zyuranger, which is a part of Japan's Super Sentai series, uses the power of the Tyrannosaurus. Also, later the Sentai program Bakuryuu Sentai Abaranger had a character, Ryouga Hakua aka "Abared", use the power of the Tyrannosaurus as well.
- Mighty Morphin Power Rangers - Jason Lee Scott and Rocky DeSantos, are both characters in the program, both had the power of the Tyrannosaurus. In addition, a later character, Conner McKnight from Power Rangers: Dino Thunder, used the Tyrannosaurus as a power source as well. Both of these shows are based off the sentai footage from Zyuranger and Abaranger.
- Red Dwarf - The crew of Red Dwarf encountered a Tyrannosaurus in the two-parter episode Pete when they accidentally created one by de-evolving a sparrow.
- The Simpsons - Homer Simpson encounters a T. rex when he travels back in time in the episode Treehouse of Horror V. The animal attacks Homer, but he kills it by sneezing and infecting it with the common cold. In another episode Bart Sells His Soul, Bart Simpson images calling his sister Lisa out into the front yard and then spraying a T. rex sponge toy with the garden hose, which turned it into a real T. rex that would chew Lisa in its mouth. However, when Bart tried this for real the toy was washed away into a sewer opening instead.
- Teen Titans - One of Beast Boy's morphs is that of a green Tyrannosaur. Though rarely seen, it is his most powerful.
- The Transformers - T. rex appeared as the modes of several different Transformers, including Dinobot leader Grimlock, as well as being the robot mode of the Decepticon city Trypticon . In Beast Wars, Tyrannosaurus also featured as the alternate mode of Predacon leader Megatron( the Beast Wars and Beast Machines version rather than the G1 incarnation). He was also altered into a metallic version of a Tyrannosaurus in later series.
- Timon and Pumbaa
- Walking with Beasts - Tyrannosaurus is featured briefly at the beginning.
- The Adventures of Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius - Jimmy, Carl, and Sheen encounter a Tyrannosaurus in the episode Sorry, Wrong Era.
- Yu-Gi-Oh! and Yu-Gi-Oh! GX - Several forms of Tyrannosaurus are featured as Duel Monsters in the game, and are used by characters Dinosaur Ryuzaki (Rex Raptor) and Tyranno Hassleberry (Tyranno Kenzan) in the anime.
- T. rex is the subject of a special on the Discovery Channel, called T. Rex: New Science, New Beast.
From "Computer and video games":
- 3D Monster Maze
- Banjo-Tooie - In this Nintendo 64 game, Banjo the bear is able to become either an infant Tyrannosaurus rex or an adult Tyrannosaurus rex, depending on the size of Humba Wumba's wigwam at the time of transformation.
- Crash Bandicoot: Warped - Crash is able to ride a baby Tyrannosaurus after he jumps on its egg in the levels Dino Mite! and Eggipus Rex.
- Doom 3 - The Guardian of Hell from this sci-fi video game is said by the creators to be a demonic dinosaur.
- Final Fantasy I - Enemies called T REX and TYRO make appearances in the game.
- Final Fantasy VIII - The T-Rexaur in the game's training centre.
- Final Fantasy XII - The Rockeater, Wild Saurian, Pylraster, and Giruveganus monsters all resemble a Tyrannosaur.
- Final Fantasy Mystic Quest - Flamerous Rex.
- Freedom Force.
- Lineage 2 MMORPG - on Primeval Island.
- Mega Man X5 - A Maverick boss named Mattrex (known as "Burn Dinorex" in Japan) is based on a T. rex.
- Neopets- The pet "Grarrl" is based on a T rex.
- Parasite Eve
- ParaWorld.
- Pokémon - Tyranitar is based on T. rex.
- Primal Rage - As the characters "Diablo" and "Sauron".
- Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge.
- Tomb Raider and its sequels, Tomb Raider II and Tomb Raider III, as well as Tomb Raider Anniversary
- Turok: Dinosaur Hunter - A cybernetic Tyrannosaurus is a boss character in the game.
- Turok: Evolution.
- Savage Quest - The game features a Tyrannosaurus as the main protagonistic role.
- In Sonic and the Secret Rings, there is a jungle level where you must escape a Tyrannosaurus Rex like creature's den.
- Star Fox Adventures - The RedEyes.
- Super Mario - The series features Yoshi, based on the T. rex.
- Viewtiful Joe 2 - One of the major enemies of the game, drill sergeant Big John, is a T. rex that can breathe fire.
- World of Warcraft - A jungle-themed area contains monsters named "Devilsaurs" which are heavily modeled on T. rex
- Turok- The upcoming video game will feature several different T.rex's and other various dinosaurs
from "Toys": [[:Image:Csmegatronii2.jpg|thumb|240px|right|Megatron in the form of a Tyrannosaurus rex.]]
- In the Lego Dino Attack line the Tyrannosaurs came in two colours (green and red), both of which stand 25 cm tall. Both feature light-up eyes and tongues, and have hinged jaws for "dino-chomping action".
- In the Lego Bionicle line, the Bahrag twins have great resemblance to T. rex.
- The King Kong action figures included Vastatosaurus Rex, an evolved version of the dinosaur as featured in the 2005 film.
- Beanie Babies Doll Trex
- The Transformers characters of Grimlock, Snapdragon, Overkill, Trypticon, Gigastorm, Megatron and T-Wrecks each turn into a Tyrannosaurus rex.
- In the Zoids model series, the Godkaiser, Geno Saurer, Geno Breaker, Berserk Fury, Gairyuki and Bio Tyranno are all patterened after the Tyrannosaurus, although the God Kaiser's resemblance to Tyrannosaurus is minimal at best. Gojulas Giga resembles a Tyrannosaur as well but is actually a Giganotosaurus. The Deadborder also resembles a Tyrannosaurus, but is actually based on its close relative Tarbosaurus, although an unreleased Hasbro variant would have been named "Battle Rex". An unreleased Gravity Zoid also exists, which is based on a Tyrannosaurus. Also, various Organoids are based on Tyrannosaurus.
- Tyrannosaurus Rex is Monster in My Pocket #6, but appears to be a legal way of including Godzilla without paying a license. A more accurate likeness of Tyrannosaurus rex was #145.
and from "other":
- In the British comic 2000AD several tyrannosaurs appeared in different stories; The huge female "Old One-Eye" appeared in the Flesh series, while Satanus was an opponent of Judge Dredd.
- The band The Hives named their third album in 2004 after the great beast, Tyrannosaurus Hives.
- GWAR has a character called Gor-Gor, a Tyrannosaurus rex whose egg was injected with crack cocaine, making him especially powerful. Gor-Gor is a fixture of the band's elaborate stage show, appeared in the band's video Phallus in Wonderland, and has a namesake song on the album America Must Be Destroyed.
- Jake, Marco, Cassie, and Ax from the book series Animorphs once had the opportunity to morph into Tyrannosaurs in Megamorphs #2: In the Time of Dinosaurs. It is noted that this morph was one of the hardest for them to control, and at the end of the book they lose the T. rex morph.
- The Marvel Character Devil Dinosaur appears to be based on a Tyrannosaurus.
- The Quintaglios from Robert J. Sawyer's Quintaglio Ascension Trilogy are a race of highly evolved, sentient Tyrannosaurs descended from Nanotyrannus. Tyrannosaurus rex itself was represented within the series as well, in the form of the Blackdeath, the biggest carnivores living on the Quintaglio moon.
- A full-scale replica of the Sue T. rex specimen is on display in DinoLand U.S.A., at the entrance to Dinosaur: the Ride, at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida. [1] There is also a T. rex featured in the Jurassic Park River Adventure in Universal Studios Hollywood and at the Universal Orlando Resort, Florida. In both instances they are animatronic, and appear to attack those on the ride, who (of course) successfully escape.
- In the Samurai Cat series, one of the villains, Gruppenfuhrer Ubersaurus Rex, was the commanding officer of a division of Waffen S.S. Tyrannosaurs.
In several instances, the name of something was simply cited without saying why, or a subject was mentioned that isn't necessarily Tyrannosaurus (just looks like a large theropod). I don't think half of what remains is probably necessary, either, but it's a start. If the rest of the article looked like the first couple of sections, it would be easier to work with, and if it wasn't a list, it would be less tempting for someone to add things to. Proceed as you will. J. Spencer 02:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Rex actually was in Walking with Beasts. Not as an actual creature in the episode but it shows clips from WWD. So, in that sense, not only was Tyrannosaurus in the episode, but also, Ankylosaurus, Didelphodon, and two unidentified mammals (one using the same model as Leptictidium and another that I think was live acted by a squirrel). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.148.242 (talk) 05:20, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
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nomenclatural oddity
[edit]Someone pointed out that there are only two formal "species" names known to the general public: E. coli and T. rex. Quite a pair, a microscopic bacterium and maybe the biggest carnivore ever.WHPratt (talk) 19:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Not really—whoever pointed that out was simply making things up off the top of their head. Plenty of other formal species names are well-known to the general public...take Homo sapiens, for example. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 22:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Except that people don't generally say "H. sapiens," which emphasizes the species part of the name. I think that was the point being made. Other examples?WHPratt (talk) 14:24, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Some Google results I just ran off:
Results 1 - 10 of about 11,300,000 for "T. Rex". (0.19 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 22,600,000 for "E. coli" [definition]. (0.13 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,070,000 for "H. sapiens". (0.12 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 55,200 for "C. familiaris". (0.17 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 13,600 for "F. domestica". (0.29 seconds)
... Respectively dinosaur, bacterium, human, dog, cat.WHPratt (talk) 15:45, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I guess I misunderstood your first message and didn't realize you were referring just to the species name. You may have a point about T. rex and E. coli, but I'm still not sure it is worth mentioning in the article. First of all, if it's not something you can cite to a reliable source, we can't include it; even if you can make a convincing case for it with Google results, etc., it's against Wikipedia policy to write about theories you came up with through original synthesis and need to "prove" with google results (and google results alone don't prove anything: notice that C. familiaris gets more hits than T. rex and E. coli combined). Secondly, even if it is mentioned in a good source, it seems a bit like an arbitrary piece of trivia. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 16:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- As for "notice that C. familiaris gets more hits than T. rex and E. coli combined," you misread the figures, probably because they're not right-justified. In fact, C. familiaris has half of one per cent as many hits as T. rex. (Sorry to note this so late, but it bothered me.) WHPratt (talk) 04:26, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
- It may indeed be too trivial. My excuse is that the topic is "popular culture," and my "non-scientific" exercise attempted to measure common usage, however taxonomically incorrect it may be.WHPratt (talk) 12:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Interesting point...and has me thinking about whether there are other names known like this. I suspect there are some plants or fungi but none come to mind. The issue with inclusion here is that another source must have mentioned it somewhere. Casliber (talk · contribs) 18:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- I guess that it is too trivial, and can't reasonably be accomodated until we've tracked down every appearance by a bipedal dinosaur in every medium, ever, for this article! ;) WHPratt (talk) 16:50, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- Trinity college (Hartford, Conn.) has their Thesis Instructions online. When they needed an example of the use of binomial nomenclature, what two examples do they choose?
- "N.b. Even such commonly used abbreviated binomials as E. coli and T. rex should be identified properly (with unabbreviated generic names) the first time they appear in the text."
- (It's at http://www.trincoll.edu/Academics/MajorsAndMinors/Biology/Pages/ThesisInstructions.aspx).
- But, never mind etymology: I saw a T-Rex on Sponge Bob! Stop the presses! WHPratt (talk) 04:01, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
- Interesting point...and has me thinking about whether there are other names known like this. I suspect there are some plants or fungi but none come to mind. The issue with inclusion here is that another source must have mentioned it somewhere. Casliber (talk · contribs) 18:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- It may indeed be too trivial. My excuse is that the topic is "popular culture," and my "non-scientific" exercise attempted to measure common usage, however taxonomically incorrect it may be.WHPratt (talk) 12:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Future
[edit]There is an article in the 2008 Tyrannosaurus volume that may be of use in this article ("Tyrannosaurus rex: a century of celebrity", Donald F. Glut). My question is if it is worth doing anything for this article, instead of sending a couple of the more useful paragraphs to Tyrannosaurus and putting this up for AfD again. Really, what's the point of deleting one fan's "Spot the Dinosaur" moment when the majority of the article is "Spot the Dinosaur"? J. Spencer (talk) 05:08, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
- I hate separate "In popular culture" articles. I'd use the Glut book with a short cultural section in the main one and longer in this. I doubt this will get deleted as it is pretty noteworthy though...don't lose sleep over it...Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:45, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
- Clearly you guys are just racist against dinosaurs. rʨanaɢ (talk) 23:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
- rexist ?
- 86.25.122.183 (talk) 08:14, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- rexist ?
"we don't need every minute detail"
[edit]overlooking the fact that the added piece was hardly full of "minute" details, and that it corrected a factual error in the existing phrasing, and the fact that 2000AD ( here incorrectly called "Flesh comics" ) is probably as significant to British comics as Stan Lee is to US comics... the fact the plot idea appeared some 12 years before the most-commonly known usage is somewhat... notable, surely... ?
86.25.122.183 (talk) 13:07, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think it's notable. Anyway, if you need to correct a factual error then do so, but there's no need to include a plot summary or list of the various dinosaurs' ages, attributes, and how they came to be. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:30, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Film Appearances
[edit]Re: The Lost World: " ... this 1925 film changed Allosaurus to Tyrannosaurus for a more dramatic and spectacular effect."
The version of film I saw had it: "an Allosaurus, a meat-eater--the most vicious pest of the ancient world." It all depends upon the title cards. Earlier, we see notebook sketches labeled "Allosaurus," and this creature, shown to scale with a human, does appear close to the acknowledged size, without the exaggeration that would take over in later films. WHPratt (talk) 12:38, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Do you mean there's not a single Tyrannosaurus in the 1925 film The Lost World? it's all the time an Allosaurus? Kintaro (talk) 17:24, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- Hard to say! It's not as if you could tell the difference on sight. Movies usually exaggerate the size of any dinosaur, so the size of the model isn't much of a clue. (Though, I think that the carnosaur in the movie does seem relatively small as compared to the other dinosaurs depicted.) The detail of the forelimbs and claws was still in dispute back in the 1920s, and for some time thereafter.
- I'm only saying that the copy of the film that I last saw did specify Allosaurus in its title cards, but these are often re-created when an old film is restored. I'll check the other versions that I have and urge others to do likewise. WHPratt (talk) 18:17, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- The current situation, for now, is that Allosaurus is officially the carnosaur seen in the film... but you're right to look for more data, I'll be looking forward for them. Take your time dude, and see you soon. Kintaro (talk) 20:57, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
- I reviewed my tape/DVD-R copies of the 1991 restoration (Lumivision/Eastman House/Scott MacQueen) and the 2000 restoration (Serge Bromberg & David Shepard: This version added Conan Doyle in a prologue).
- Both feature Maple White's notebook with a sketch of "Carnivorous beast Allosaurus," to scale with a human, suggesting that it's about 15 feet tall. (A similar sketch of a brontosaurus suggests that it's 50-60 feet long. I'd say that this film avoids the size exaggerations of later cinema.) That sounds about right for the allosaur, but too small for a tyrannosaur. Later, these beasts battle ceratopsian dinosaurs somewhat more massive then themselves.
- In both versions, Challenger says "An Allosaurus--a meat-eater--the most vicious pest of the ancient world." The title card has been re-lettered, but the text is the same.
- If there's a mention of a Tyrannosaurus, I must have missed it.
- I wouldn't be a bit surprised if some other version along the way wrote T. rex into its title cards, but I'd regard that as revisionism. WHPratt (talk) 02:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer. I just brought a reference, a 2005 documentary, which states that even if Allosaurus was in the movie Tyrannosaurus also was in. The documentary states: T. rex didn't actually featured in the book but O'Brien made sure there was a role for him in the film. The documentary (T. rex: A Dinosaur in Hollywood) is on Youtube. What do you think? Kintaro (talk) 02:43, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- I found what purports to be a script online, and a find command detects "Allosaurus" often and "Tyrannosaurus" not at all. I'd say that direct evidence would be a title card with the T-word in it; and that indirect evidence would be the appearance of an allosaur variant dinosaur with smaller forelimbs but made to look larger overall in relation to the sets. I'd suggest that anyone who wants to find a T. rex here carefully review variant copies of the film. I don't think that film reviews are evidence, as the reviewer is bringing in his own popular zoology -- and the species depicted isn't really relevant to the film 's place in history. Happy hunting! WHPratt (talk) 12:27, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- So, this 2005 documentary is wrong (T. rex didn't actually featured in the book but O'Brien made sure there was a role for him in the film)? Kintaro (talk) 15:02, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say "wrong," just "unproven," until someone shows more tangible evidence. The film has a dinosaur stampede with lots of background creatures, so one of them could be Ol' Rex. WHPratt (talk) 15:32, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
- The current situation, for now, is that Allosaurus is officially the carnosaur seen in the film... but you're right to look for more data, I'll be looking forward for them. Take your time dude, and see you soon. Kintaro (talk) 20:57, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Some confusion?
[edit]I think that on this article there's some confusion between this T. rex painting (1919, by Charles R. Knight, for the National Geographic Society) and this one (1927, also by Charles R. Knight, but this time for a mural in the Chicago Field Museum). I'm I right? Kintaro (talk) 03:26, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
The second image definitely looks more anatomically accurate despite the fact that it is in the classic "living tripod" pose. As such, it looks more like something you'd see in a museum. So, yes, I think that's the one that started the idea that T-rex and Trike were arch nemeses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.148.242 (talk) 05:10, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- That's not the point. The original text said: In 1942, Charles R. Knight painted a mural incorporating Tyrannosaurus facing a Triceratops in the Field Museum of Natural History for the National Geographic Society, establishing the two dinosaurs as enemies in popular thought;
- I fixed the year of the mural, since it's 1927 and not 1942, but the point is that this sentence confuses both paintings: the mural for the Field Museum (1927) and the illustration for National Geographic (1919). The sentence "In 1942 [in fact 1927], Charles R. Knight painted a mural incorporating Tyrannosaurus facing a Triceratops in the Field Museum of Natural History for the National Geographic Society" can only be true if there was some relation between both institutions, the Field Museum and National Geographic, but I think that there's simply a confusion: the National Geographic illustration is the one painted in 1919, not related to the mural. Can anybody confirm that? Kintaro (talk) 15:28, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- I edited the article. End of the story. Kintaro (talk) 18:04, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
Deletions
[edit]I have deleted large segments of this article which not only made no mention of why certain appearances in culture are relevant or notable (i.e. proving that anybody cares by citing a source discussing a given appearance), but almost all lacked any sources, period, in blatant violation of Wikipedia policy. Please do not re-add anything without proving notability and verifiability. MMartyniuk (talk) 20:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed... except for a segment I added myself, the one mentioning Phil Tippett's Prehistoric Beast. This short film was certainly the first film showing Tyrannosaurus in proper posture (horizontal backbone and tail, for balance). In any case if it wasn't the first it was one of the first... I'll look for references, can you bring some help? Kintaro (talk) 21:39, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
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Literature
[edit]Tyrannosaur Canyon, by Douglas Preston? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.153.40.58 (talk) 19:14, 1 January 2022 (UTC)